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Archery1969
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Michael5482 wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2024 7:56 am
It's no surprise the vast majority of riots have been in the north, I live in the north and we've been shat on by the Tory's and now Labour. People were told vote for change and 2 weeks in they voted to keep the 2 child benefit and then removed the winter fuel allowance for pensioners (they spent 14 years slagging the Tory's off on poverty and created more) whilst still spending 8 million a day on migrants in hotels who are unvetted and left to wander the streets and people have had enough. People have had genuine concerns but Starmer then labels them all as far right thugs which was a red rag to a bull.

Was there an undercurrent of hooligans, criminals involved of course there was but by and large the feeling is people in the north are seeing through the political lies we are sold the stabbings were just the catalyst and was unfortunately it was this that lit the tinder box that has been simmering for years.

Mass immigration has been forced on the north and by and large Hindus, Sikhs, Blacks have integrated well however Muslims have created ghettos forcing British people out of certain areas, failed to integrate trying to force Islamists ways in areas as well as police cover ups with grooming gangs etc Two tier policing is evident including the other week in Leeds when immigrants rioted and the police stood by and watched, this gave the green light that rioting was OK. I've seen videos of Muslims now hunting white British people and a police officer telling Muslims to put weapons back in a mosque (wtf by the way) but not seen any of this on the mainstream news 2 tier reporting as well as policing. The reason the Government don't like social media is everyone sees the full picture and their narrative cannot be controlled like when they roll an MP out to do the rounds every morning on Sky, BBC etc to tell us bollocks.

There's a big demo in Newcastle next Saturday, the north-east will put out another show of strength, I'll be there with my fellow far-right Brits that Starmer has labeled us as. Fuck Starmer and Fuck the Government.

The Government has lost control of our Borders and the streets, their the thugs but it's OK because they wear suits.

All that said what struck me the most was seeing Union Jacks and the Irish tricolours side by side in Belfast. Unionists and Loyalists side by side demonstrating against immigration. Good luck to Starmer sorting that one out if Loyalists and Unionists stand side by side and put a proper show of strength out against illegal immigration. I hope they do.
Yeah, I saw the Unionists and Loyalists standing side by side on YouTube. That's very worrying for the Government, Police and Army. Never happened before on any subject. If masses of people can unite on one topic then law and order could very quickly breakdown on a large scale across the country. I really wouldn't want to be a member of the government or an MP with potentially whats coming.

Great post by the way!!!
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Burning down libraries and citizens advice bureaus, ransacking stores, hurling bricks at police, trasing our public spaces. This geordie will not join this patriot in


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ForFolksSake wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2024 8:31 am
LeTiss wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2024 8:03 am
Michael5482 wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2024 7:56 am
It's no surprise the vast majority of riots have been in the north, I live in the north and we've been shat on by the Tory's and now Labour. People were told vote for change and 2 weeks in they voted to keep the 2 child benefit and then removed the winter fuel allowance for pensioners (they spent 14 years slagging the Tory's off on poverty and created more) whilst still spending 8 million a day on migrants in hotels who are unvetted and left to wander the streets and people have had enough. People have had genuine concerns but Starmer then labels them all as far right thugs which was a red rag to a bull.

Was there an undercurrent of hooligans, criminals involved of course there was but by and large the feeling is people in the north are seeing through the political lies we are sold the stabbings were just the catalyst and was unfortunately it was this that lit the tinder box that has been simmering for years.

Mass immigration has been forced on the north and by and large Hindus, Sikhs, Blacks have integrated well however Muslims have created ghettos forcing British people out of certain areas, failed to integrate trying to force Islamists ways in areas as well as police cover ups with grooming gangs etc Two tier policing is evident including the other week in Leeds when immigrants rioted and the police stood by and watched, this gave the green light that rioting was OK. I've seen videos of Muslims now hunting white British people and a police officer telling Muslims to put weapons back in a mosque (wtf by the way) but not seen any of this on the mainstream news 2 tier reporting as well as policing. The reason the Government don't like social media is everyone sees the full picture and their narrative cannot be controlled like when they roll an MP out to do the rounds every morning on Sky, BBC etc to tell us bollocks.

There's a big demo in Newcastle next Saturday, the north-east will put out another show of strength, I'll be there with my fellow far-right Brits that Starmer has labeled us as. Fuck Starmer and Fuck the Government.

The Government has lost control of our Borders and the streets, their the thugs but it's OK because they wear suits.

All that said what struck me the most was seeing Union Jacks and the Irish tricolours side by side in Belfast. Unionists and Loyalists side by side demonstrating against immigration. Good luck to Starmer sorting that one out if Loyalists and Unionists stand side by side and put a proper show of strength out against illegal immigration. I hope they do.
Great post, excellent post
Unfortunately, many cannot see what you're seeing. They don't like uncomfortable truths. That fella Derek27 is one of them
+ sionscaig, greenmark,
Brilliant post btw
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This geordie will not join this patriot in
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+ Emmson
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ForFolksSake wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2024 8:31 am
That fella Derek27 is one of them
+ sionscaig, greenmark,
Brilliant post btw
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add me to that list. that's jimibt . i know love, respect, acceptance, accommodation and tolerance don't make good bedfellows for you, but if that's what the uncomfortable truth holds, then more than happy to be shamed on any list of names you may wish to draw up (and more importantly are not on yourself)!

[edit] -btw, learn how to properly quote previous posts, you're doing my head in :D
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ForFolksSake wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2024 8:31 am

Great post, excellent post
Unfortunately, many cannot see what you're seeing. They don't like uncomfortable truths. That fella Derek27 is one of them

+ sionscaig, greenmark,
Brilliant post btw
Being concerned about immigration & violent attacks on police / trying to kill immigrants by burning them down their accommodation are very different things (and I think both Michael & Archery have distanced themselves from that).

I agree with some of what Michael says re failure of government.

Its a Westminster thing and the fact that almost all the countries resources are spent on a few areas in the South.

The above is one of the main drivers for independence in Scotland. A significant proportion of people in Scotland (c50%) have just had enough and want out of the UK as Westminster is perceived to consistently fail Scotland.

Fortunately almost all this movement has been peaceful. And I hope it remains so.

What would you think if (some) indie supporters started to act in the same way as these thugs / bullies that are terrorising local populations & targeted "English" folks & businesses in Scotland?.

Yes, it would be moronic but don't think for a second they feel any less strongly than you re your own particular cause.

Peace be with you...
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BTW Unionists are Loyalists
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Emmson wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2024 9:28 am
BTW Unionists are Loyalists
archery, get yer game together -you're one of the ones i DO like :D
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jimibt wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2024 9:21 am
ForFolksSake wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2024 8:31 am
That fella Derek27 is one of them
+ sionscaig, greenmark,
Brilliant post btw
add me to that list. that's jimibt .
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Yes, I was going to add you to my original list but you've been a bit quiet for the past couple of days so I hesitated

+ Jimibt

Cheers :D
( interestingly that's two Scots, not sure about greenmark )
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ForFolksSake wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2024 9:39 am
jimibt wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2024 9:21 am
ForFolksSake wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2024 8:31 am
That fella Derek27 is one of them
+ sionscaig, greenmark,
Brilliant post btw
add me to that list. that's jimibt . i know love, respect, acceptance, accommodation and tolerance don't make good bedfellows for you, but if that's what the uncomfortable truth holds, then more than happy to be shamed on any list of names you may wish to draw up (and more importantly are not on yourself)!

[edit] -btw, learn how to properly quote previous posts, you're doing my head in :D
Yes, I was going to add you to my original list but you've been a bit quiet for the past couple of days so I hesitated

+ Jimibit

Cheers :D
( interestingly that's two Scots, not sure about greenmark )
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nope, make sure to keep me on that list !! :mrgreen:
Archery1969
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jimibt wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2024 9:35 am
Emmson wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2024 9:28 am
BTW Unionists are Loyalists
archery, get yer game together -you're one of the ones i DO like :D
Apologies Jim, I meant to put Nationalists (Tri colour) and Loyalists (Union Jack)

I have washed my mouth out with soap and said three hail marys. I will start whipping my back while reading the old testament.

:D

On a serious note, I dont condone violence, hope nobody thought I did.

Peace.

:)
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Archery1969 wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2024 9:41 am
jimibt wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2024 9:35 am
Emmson wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2024 9:28 am
BTW Unionists are Loyalists
archery, get yer game together -you're one of the ones i DO like :D
Apologies Jim, I meant to put Nationalists (Tri colour) and Loyalists (Union Jack)

I have washed my mouth out with soap and said three hail marys. I will start whipping my back while reading the old testament.

:D
plus, listening to the white album backwards!!
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Archery1969
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jimibt wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2024 9:42 am
Archery1969 wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2024 9:41 am
jimibt wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2024 9:35 am


archery, get yer game together -you're one of the ones i DO like :D
Apologies Jim, I meant to put Nationalists (Tri colour) and Loyalists (Union Jack)

I have washed my mouth out with soap and said three hail marys. I will start whipping my back while reading the old testament.

:D
plus, listening to the white album backwards!!
:D
Michael5482
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Archery1969 wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2024 8:53 am
Michael5482 wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2024 7:56 am
It's no surprise the vast majority of riots have been in the north, I live in the north and we've been shat on by the Tory's and now Labour. People were told vote for change and 2 weeks in they voted to keep the 2 child benefit and then removed the winter fuel allowance for pensioners (they spent 14 years slagging the Tory's off on poverty and created more) whilst still spending 8 million a day on migrants in hotels who are unvetted and left to wander the streets and people have had enough. People have had genuine concerns but Starmer then labels them all as far right thugs which was a red rag to a bull.

Was there an undercurrent of hooligans, criminals involved of course there was but by and large the feeling is people in the north are seeing through the political lies we are sold the stabbings were just the catalyst and was unfortunately it was this that lit the tinder box that has been simmering for years.

Mass immigration has been forced on the north and by and large Hindus, Sikhs, Blacks have integrated well however Muslims have created ghettos forcing British people out of certain areas, failed to integrate trying to force Islamists ways in areas as well as police cover ups with grooming gangs etc Two tier policing is evident including the other week in Leeds when immigrants rioted and the police stood by and watched, this gave the green light that rioting was OK. I've seen videos of Muslims now hunting white British people and a police officer telling Muslims to put weapons back in a mosque (wtf by the way) but not seen any of this on the mainstream news 2 tier reporting as well as policing. The reason the Government don't like social media is everyone sees the full picture and their narrative cannot be controlled like when they roll an MP out to do the rounds every morning on Sky, BBC etc to tell us bollocks.

There's a big demo in Newcastle next Saturday, the north-east will put out another show of strength, I'll be there with my fellow far-right Brits that Starmer has labeled us as. Fuck Starmer and Fuck the Government.

The Government has lost control of our Borders and the streets, their the thugs but it's OK because they wear suits.

All that said what struck me the most was seeing Union Jacks and the Irish tricolours side by side in Belfast. Unionists and Loyalists side by side demonstrating against immigration. Good luck to Starmer sorting that one out if Loyalists and Unionists stand side by side and put a proper show of strength out against illegal immigration. I hope they do.
Yeah, I saw the Unionists and Loyalists standing side by side on YouTube. That's very worrying for the Government, Police and Army. Never happened before on any subject. If masses of people can unite on one topic then law and order could very quickly breakdown on a large scale across the country. I really wouldn't want to be a member of the government or an MP with potentially whats coming.

Great post by the way!!!
Unionists/Republicans apologies my bad. I see politicians are a little worried already, if they mobilise I doubt they'll be in the mood for messing around with peaceful protests.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news ... 36214.html
Archery1969
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Michael5482 wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2024 10:12 am
Archery1969 wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2024 8:53 am
Michael5482 wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2024 7:56 am
It's no surprise the vast majority of riots have been in the north, I live in the north and we've been shat on by the Tory's and now Labour. People were told vote for change and 2 weeks in they voted to keep the 2 child benefit and then removed the winter fuel allowance for pensioners (they spent 14 years slagging the Tory's off on poverty and created more) whilst still spending 8 million a day on migrants in hotels who are unvetted and left to wander the streets and people have had enough. People have had genuine concerns but Starmer then labels them all as far right thugs which was a red rag to a bull.

Was there an undercurrent of hooligans, criminals involved of course there was but by and large the feeling is people in the north are seeing through the political lies we are sold the stabbings were just the catalyst and was unfortunately it was this that lit the tinder box that has been simmering for years.

Mass immigration has been forced on the north and by and large Hindus, Sikhs, Blacks have integrated well however Muslims have created ghettos forcing British people out of certain areas, failed to integrate trying to force Islamists ways in areas as well as police cover ups with grooming gangs etc Two tier policing is evident including the other week in Leeds when immigrants rioted and the police stood by and watched, this gave the green light that rioting was OK. I've seen videos of Muslims now hunting white British people and a police officer telling Muslims to put weapons back in a mosque (wtf by the way) but not seen any of this on the mainstream news 2 tier reporting as well as policing. The reason the Government don't like social media is everyone sees the full picture and their narrative cannot be controlled like when they roll an MP out to do the rounds every morning on Sky, BBC etc to tell us bollocks.

There's a big demo in Newcastle next Saturday, the north-east will put out another show of strength, I'll be there with my fellow far-right Brits that Starmer has labeled us as. Fuck Starmer and Fuck the Government.

The Government has lost control of our Borders and the streets, their the thugs but it's OK because they wear suits.

All that said what struck me the most was seeing Union Jacks and the Irish tricolours side by side in Belfast. Unionists and Loyalists side by side demonstrating against immigration. Good luck to Starmer sorting that one out if Loyalists and Unionists stand side by side and put a proper show of strength out against illegal immigration. I hope they do.
Yeah, I saw the Unionists and Loyalists standing side by side on YouTube. That's very worrying for the Government, Police and Army. Never happened before on any subject. If masses of people can unite on one topic then law and order could very quickly breakdown on a large scale across the country. I really wouldn't want to be a member of the government or an MP with potentially whats coming.

Great post by the way!!!
Unionists/Republicans apologies my bad. I see politicians are a little worried already, if they mobilise I doubt they'll be in the mood for messing around with peaceful protests.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news ... 36214.html
Such things would have been unthinkable when i was serving in NI. It would have been like a gunfight at the ok corral. Not condoning violence but amazing/weird to see those two sides coming together. I wonder what they talked about over a pint. If Sir Keir has seen that then I bet in one way he might be extremely worried!!!
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