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[jimibt]

and longer...

'What goes around comes around' is what we are seeing now

Blaming a 5 week old Labour Govt is staggeringly stupid.

Not really - 5 weeks or 5 years it doesn't matter
Labour have no intentions of dealing with illegal immigration ever , that's pretty obvious so far.
And I can't see Conservatives getting back into power before Sadiq Khan becomes next Prime Minister - game over

whilst you (assert) that labour have no intentions of dealing with ILLEGAL immigration ever (one for another day), they do make mention of their legal obligations and intentions in the manifesto: https://labour.org.uk/updates/stories/l ... all-boats/

[ForFolksSake]

Blaming a 5 week old Labour Govt is staggeringly stupid.

Not really - 5 weeks or 5 years it doesn't matter
Labour have no intentions of dealing with illegal immigration ever , that's pretty obvious so far.
And I can't see Conservatives getting back into power before Sadiq Khan becomes next Prime Minister - game over

whilst you (assert) that labour have no intentions of dealing with ILLEGAL immigration ever (one for another day), they do make mention of their legal obligations and intentions in the manifesto: https://labour.org.uk/updates/stories/l ... all-boats/

I've read it - it's a fairy story
And they all lived happily together ever after is how they would like it all to end

[Archery1969]

and longer...

'What goes around comes around' is what we are seeing now

Blaming a 5 week old Labour Govt is staggeringly stupid.

Not really - 5 weeks or 5 years it doesn't matter
Labour have no intentions of dealing with illegal immigration ever , that's pretty obvious so far.
And I can't see Conservatives getting back into power before Sadiq Khan becomes next Prime Minister - game over

To use a favourite phrase by the new Home Secretary.

"There will be a reckoning"

I am sure there will be if Politicians ignore migration. The conversation is going on in Italy, Spain and Germany. The latter, since the Berlin wall fell has probably been the most open and inclusive country in the world. But they are too now having issues.

If you remember back to before Brexit. Most politicians ignored what at least 50% of the public was saying. Then it was too late to educate or change their views with simple, straightforward arguments.

The same thing will happen over migration. It will be ignored, your all racists and the overwelming majority are inclusive and division does not represent the United Kingdom.

Then, before you know it, something very bad will happen, Politicians will once again be behind the curve and need to take drastic action without thinking it through properly.

Maybe at somepoint there will be another national vote offered, although I am not sure how you would word the questions.

Lets see what happens in Plymouth tonight and Newcastle at the weekend to see if the policing is truly equal. If its not then things could turn to shit very quckly in the coming weeks, months and years.

[jimibt]

Not really - 5 weeks or 5 years it doesn't matter
Labour have no intentions of dealing with illegal immigration ever , that's pretty obvious so far.
And I can't see Conservatives getting back into power before Sadiq Khan becomes next Prime Minister - game over

whilst you (assert) that labour have no intentions of dealing with ILLEGAL immigration ever (one for another day), they do make mention of their legal obligations and intentions in the manifesto: https://labour.org.uk/updates/stories/l ... all-boats/

I've read it - it's a fairy story

what parts in particular did you find (from your own analysis) was falling short on tackling the issues in a way that complied with UN laws and civil liberties?? how would you propose we strike a balance which ensured that we had a viable workforce across all our key sectors but at the same time maintained the ease of mobility that we as UK citizens are afforded when working abroad.

i know you won't be able to answer this in a single sentence, but would be keen to see how your thinking balances these complex and competing forces.

[Dabbla]

Its all kicking of in Bangladesh
Crowds storm Bangladesh prime minister's residence | AFP

Not really sure what's going on but they seem to be having a good time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqK7vVYXYxo


Guy eating the presidents lunch for the gram.

LUNCH.PNG

[jimibt]

Not really - 5 weeks or 5 years it doesn't matter
Labour have no intentions of dealing with illegal immigration ever , that's pretty obvious so far.
And I can't see Conservatives getting back into power before Sadiq Khan becomes next Prime Minister - game over

whilst you (assert) that labour have no intentions of dealing with ILLEGAL immigration ever (one for another day), they do make mention of their legal obligations and intentions in the manifesto: https://labour.org.uk/updates/stories/l ... all-boats/

I've read it - it's a fairy story
And they all lived happily together ever after is how they would like it all to end

and god forbid that ANYONE should find happiness - no matter who. jeez, we'd all be hugging trees and talking about best ways to cook broccoli!

[ForFolksSake]

whilst you (assert) that labour have no intentions of dealing with ILLEGAL immigration ever (one for another day), they do make mention of their legal obligations and intentions in the manifesto: https://labour.org.uk/updates/stories/l ... all-boats/

I've read it - it's a fairy story

what parts in particular did you find (from your own analysis) was falling short on tackling the issues in a way that complied with UN laws and civil liberties?? how would you propose we strike a balance which ensured that we had a viable workforce across all our key sectors but at the same time maintained the ease of mobility that we as UK citizens are afforded when working abroad.

i know you won't be able to answer this in a single sentence, but would be keen to see how your thinking balances these complex and competing forces.

how would you propose we strike a balance which ensured that we had a viable workforce across all our key sectors

Simple - stop illegal immigration

at the same time maintained the ease of mobility that we as UK citizens are afforded when working abroad.

I'm afraid that horse has already bolted - Brexit ended that to a large extent

[jimibt]

how would you propose we strike a balance which ensured that we had a viable workforce across all our key sectors

Simple - stop illegal immigration

but my point was about the labour manifesto outlining it's legal response and approach to immigration. if you think that answers that, then i apologise for not being clear.

at the same time maintained the ease of mobility that we as UK citizens are afforded when working abroad.

I'm afraid that horse has already bolted - Brexit ended that to a large extent

so here we do have a common appreciation for making rushed decisions in the heat of the moment.
In the 2016 Brexit referendum, Scotland overwhelmingly voted to remain in the EU by 62% to 38%. If you’re interested in Brexit specifically, the UK as a whole voted to leave the EU by 51.9% to 48.1%.

[Derek27]

The police commissioner has now explained his behaviour, he was in a hurry.

[greenmark]

Have you been round to you local mosque recently for your dinner and a glass of water, just wondering ?

You are a king canute!

Takes one to know one !

Thats probably the most intelligent thing you have said.

[ForFolksSake]

how would you propose we strike a balance which ensured that we had a viable workforce across all our key sectors

Simple - stop illegal immigration

but my point was about the labour manifesto outlining it's legal response and approach to immigration. if you think that answers that, then i apologise for not being clear.

at the same time maintained the ease of mobility that we as UK citizens are afforded when working abroad.

I'm afraid that horse has already bolted - Brexit ended that to a large extent

so here we do have a common appreciation for making rushed decisions in the heat of the moment.
In the 2016 Brexit referendum, Scotland overwhelmingly voted to remain in the EU by 62% to 38%. If you’re interested in Brexit specifically, the UK as a whole voted to leave the EU by 51.9% to 48.1%.

In the 2016 Brexit referendum, Scotland overwhelmingly voted to remain in the EU by 62% to 38%. If you’re

Maybe Labour will let you have another Indie Ref - what do you think ?

[jimibt]

Simple - stop illegal immigration

but my point was about the labour manifesto outlining it's legal response and approach to immigration. if you think that answers that, then i apologise for not being clear.

I'm afraid that horse has already bolted - Brexit ended that to a large extent

so here we do have a common appreciation for making rushed decisions in the heat of the moment.
In the 2016 Brexit referendum, Scotland overwhelmingly voted to remain in the EU by 62% to 38%. If you’re interested in Brexit specifically, the UK as a whole voted to leave the EU by 51.9% to 48.1%.

In the 2016 Brexit referendum, Scotland overwhelmingly voted to remain in the EU by 62% to 38%. If you’re

Maybe Labour will let you have another Indie Ref - what do you think ?

historically, the SNP championed independence as a matter of national identity and sovereignty. however, in recent years, the messaging has shifted to emphasize practical benefits, such as economic prosperity and improved public services.

I personally appreciate the SNP’s governance and policies but would not prioritize independence (or any form of nationalism), therefore, the dichotomy of my SNP vote is for its track record on issues like healthcare, education, and social welfare and not indie ref.

[Archery1969]

I been invited to an Indian tomorrow by one of the chefs for a free evening meal.

https://dhabaonthefalls.ca/

He is a very keen on Archery, the sport, not me. We both joined the same club over here.

I will do my best not to discuss migration or turn up in my St. Georges shorts and socks.

In effect we both migrants. But don’t tell the locals.

[jimibt]

I been invited to an Indian tomorrow by one of the chefs for a free evening meal.

https://dhabaonthefalls.ca/

He is a very keen on Archery, the sport, not me. We both joined the same club over here.

I will do my best not to discuss migration or turn up in my St. Georges shorts and socks.

In effect we both migrants. But don’t tell the locals.

Archery, we've known each other for over 5 years (maybe more on initial forum handle!!) i know you know

[ForFolksSake]

I been invited to an Indian tomorrow by one of the chefs for a free evening meal.

https://dhabaonthefalls.ca/

He is a very keen on Archery, the sport, not me. We both joined the same club over here.

I will do my best not to discuss migration or turn up in my St. Georges shorts and socks.

In effect we both migrants. But don’t tell the locals.

But don’t tell the locals.

But you/they wouldn't mind anyway if we did tell them because you are both 'legal' migrants
and have been issued with government-issued ID cards