Using a Betfair Account in Another Legal Country Without VPN/VPS

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rabitrun99
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Can you use a Betfair account in a country other than your registration country without a VPN or VPS, provided it’s also legal and accessible there? Officially, Betfair states accounts should only be used in the country of registration. However, many users report no issues using UK VPSs for accounts registered elsewhere.

If I travel to a legal Betfair country (e.g., from Australia to Romania), can I use Betfair there without masking my IP, or should I still use an IP from my registration country? How critical is it to match your IP location to your account’s registration country?

Additionally, if Betfair detects mismatched IPs or VPN use, does it issue warnings or suspend accounts outright? Could this also freeze access to the account balance or are the actions wouldn't be that serious at all?

Any advice or shared experiences would be appreciated!
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Euler
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Do you have an Australian account? Rules vary from one country to the next.
rabitrun99
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The Australian account was just an example; my question referred to Betfair accounts in general. Currently, I don’t have an account because, unfortunately, Betfair left the country where I had an account for over 15 years. So, in general, I’m curious whether, if you have an account in COUNTRY A where Betfair is legal, and you go to COUNTRY B where Betfair is also legal, is it allowed to use Betfair with a local IP in COUNTRY B? Or, despite Betfair being legal there as well, is it recommended to connect to the registered country (especially if you are staying there for a longer period)? If you think this varies by country, could you provide examples for specific countries and also give a general recommendation? Thanks!
rabitrun99
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Euler wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2024 9:15 am
Do you have an Australian account? Rules vary from one country to the next.
In short: Is it important for the country listed in your Betfair account to match the IP address of your location? Or is there no risk in this, since if Betfair is legal in both countries, it’s legitimate to use your account in another country as well? What is the general approach to this, and since you mentioned that it might vary by country, could you provide some examples? Thank you.
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It varies by country, so it's impossible to advise unless you specifically states the countries.

For example, in Australia it's OK to use a UK VPS via Bet Angel, but if you try to log into the website, even via a VPS you will be rejected unless you have an Aussie IP.

It's very dependant on what you are doing and were and where your Betfair account is domiciled. The best account to have is a Betfair.com account in the UK.
rabitrun99
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Why would the situation with an Australian account be different from one registered in another country? Are you suggesting that Betfair's policies (specifically on this matter) vary by country? Do you think the policy regarding whether you can use your account in another country (where Betfair is also permitted) depends on the country of registration? If an Australian Betfair account is allowed to be used in another country, wouldn't the same apply to an account from a different country?

My question is straightforward: If someone has an account in country XY, can they use it in another country where Betfair is accessible and legal? I believe Betfair's policy (specifically on this matter) does not differentiate based on the account's country of registration.

Please verify this and advise accordingly. It doesn't seem logical—or at least it's hard to justify—that one user can freely use their account abroad while anothers cannot.

Furthermore, while a UK account is a great alternative, opening one requires residency in the UK, and I, for instance, do not live there. That said, the question remains the same regardless of whether the account is from the UK, Australia, or another country.

So, what is the general approach? Is your account officially and generally restricted to use only in its country of registration, or can it also be used in another country where Betfair is available?

So, specifically, does Betfair's policy do or do not usually prohibit cross-border usage as long as the destination country allows Betfair access and gambling is legal?

Let’s use the UK account as an example. If you were to travel to another country for, say, 6 months to a year where Betfair is accessible, would it be allowed to use a local IP, or would you need to connect to a UK IP? Please explain your stance with this example and justify your reasoning. Thanks!
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Go between England and Ireland regularly with no issue connecting through UK account.
Australia does have seperate rules, I don't live there but I believe you're not allowed to bet inplay if using an Aus account.
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rabitrun99 wrote:
Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:12 am
Why would the situation with an Australian account be different from one registered in another country? Are you suggesting that Betfair's policies (specifically on this matter) vary by country? Do you think the policy regarding whether you can use your account in another country (where Betfair is also permitted) depends on the country of registration? If an Australian Betfair account is allowed to be used in another country, wouldn't the same apply to an account from a different country?

My question is straightforward: If someone has an account in country XY, can they use it in another country where Betfair is accessible and legal? I believe Betfair's policy (specifically on this matter) does not differentiate based on the account's country of registration.

Please verify this and advise accordingly. It doesn't seem logical—or at least it's hard to justify—that one user can freely use their account abroad while anothers cannot.

Furthermore, while a UK account is a great alternative, opening one requires residency in the UK, and I, for instance, do not live there. That said, the question remains the same regardless of whether the account is from the UK, Australia, or another country.

So, what is the general approach? Is your account officially and generally restricted to use only in its country of registration, or can it also be used in another country where Betfair is available?

So, specifically, does Betfair's policy do or do not usually prohibit cross-border usage as long as the destination country allows Betfair access and gambling is legal?

Let’s use the UK account as an example. If you were to travel to another country for, say, 6 months to a year where Betfair is accessible, would it be allowed to use a local IP, or would you need to connect to a UK IP? Please explain your stance with this example and justify your reasoning. Thanks!
It's to do with local regulation, which is why it isn't logical or sensible.

Just last year the rules for New Zealand and Australia changed after many years.

NZ now requires it's own specific log-in and the regulator banned logging into an Aussie account from overseas. But granted an exception for API users logging in via the API.

It's very complicated and there is no standard rule, which is why you can't easily get a straight answer without declaring what you are trying to do from where, with what account.
rabitrun99
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Thanks for the response. Based on what you wrote, are we to assume that Betfair's regulations & policies are not consistent across different countries? Even in such a general question as whether you can use your account in another country where Betfair is legal, there seems to be no unified approach. Is this because Betfair is not the same company everywhere, or could it be that different principles govern Betfair in certain countries?

Let’s take a specific example: I am currently in Thailand, and I opened my Betfair account here. If I travel to another Asian country (e.g., Indonesia), Europe, or the UK, can I use my account in another country? Or would you recommend always connecting with a Thai IP when trading (since Thailand is my registered country)?

Also, have you heard of anyone being restricted by Betfair for trading outside their registered country or for using a VPN? I believe such cases are rare, but if you do get restricted, is it just a warning, or could they also withhold the funds in your account?

Please address each question. I appreciate it.
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