Mass illegal immigration was rife in the sixties ..as a taxi driver I used to see lorry loads ariiving up Lumb lane in Bradford early hours of the morning .. faces peering out of the back in wonderForFolksSake wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2024 4:45 pmPR + cards will nip it in the bud - but it's not going to happen as long as the Tories and Labour have a hole in there arseMichael5482 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2024 3:15 pmFirst let's get the semantics out the way it is either net or nett it is a variant spelling. My accountant used to use nett and I asked him about it as thought it was me who was in the wrong he said most older people especially in accounting use nett but most younger people use net. Just about every news agency uses net it appears to be a generational thing with the spelling. To conclude there is no right to wrong.greenmark wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2024 2:24 pmFirst, it's nett not net.
Second. Difficulty getting GP appointments is a decade old problem. And it has f**k all to do with migrants.
The elephant in the room is that tech is making huge numbers redundant. No politician wants to face this.
Tories don't give a s**t.
Labour knows it a gigantic problem and are avoiding it like they did when the credit crunch was looming.
Second letting nearly 1 million people into the country has a direct impact on GP appointments when there is already a lack of GP's, mass uncontrolled immigration started around 1993 with Blair so yes it's a decade + problem and mass uncontrolled immigration is a major factor in this
The elephant in the room is immigration to cope with demand last year we'd of needed to build a fully functional City the size of Leeds we couldn't build a village let alone a City. We'd have more jobs if Miliband stops his net zero ideology and concentrated on industry like steel that provides jobs and sustains other businesses but he's intent on turbo charging the Tory policy of killing what little British industry is left. Labour just attacked one of the most important industry's just the other week in farming.
Excuses, Excuses, Excuses
Do you think that did harm? IMO most people that get here are pioneers. They risked it all for an opportunity to improve their life. IMO these are the people we need. Compared to Dyson, for example, that legged it to Singapore in a huff and is now back here.threedogs wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2024 10:55 amMass illegal immigration was rife in the sixties ..as a taxi driver I used to see lorry loads ariiving up Lumb lane in Bradford early hours of the morning .. faces peering out of the back in wonderForFolksSake wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2024 4:45 pmPR + cards will nip it in the bud - but it's not going to happen as long as the Tories and Labour have a hole in there arseMichael5482 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2024 3:15 pm
First let's get the semantics out the way it is either net or nett it is a variant spelling. My accountant used to use nett and I asked him about it as thought it was me who was in the wrong he said most older people especially in accounting use nett but most younger people use net. Just about every news agency uses net it appears to be a generational thing with the spelling. To conclude there is no right to wrong.
Second letting nearly 1 million people into the country has a direct impact on GP appointments when there is already a lack of GP's, mass uncontrolled immigration started around 1993 with Blair so yes it's a decade + problem and mass uncontrolled immigration is a major factor in this
The elephant in the room is immigration to cope with demand last year we'd of needed to build a fully functional City the size of Leeds we couldn't build a village let alone a City. We'd have more jobs if Miliband stops his net zero ideology and concentrated on industry like steel that provides jobs and sustains other businesses but he's intent on turbo charging the Tory policy of killing what little British industry is left. Labour just attacked one of the most important industry's just the other week in farming.
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ForFolksSake wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2024 1:30 pmWell It's certainly causing harm now !!
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+ 1greenmark wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2024 10:12 amThat's ok. Both my Nan's were extraordiinary women. Raising 3 kids through WW2 and beyond, alone because your husband was fighting and lost his life in March 1944. Maternal Nan had multiple jobs to support her bringing up her daughters after losing her husband to illness.Archery1969 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2024 8:45 pmYou remind me of my Nan, she was never wrong, especially when coming to cooking roast potatoes.
As Crazyskier said a while back. Not the weaker sex, but the fairer sex.
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"....more than 20,000 migrants have arrived in Britain after crossing the Channel since Sir Starmer became Prime Minister........"ForFolksSake wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2024 1:36 pm
"......the number of migrants arriving via the perilous route in 2022 (45,774) was higher than 2021 (28,526) and 2020 (8,466), according to figures from the University of Oxford's Migration Observatory...."
".....the cost of the UK's asylum system has risen to £5billion, the highest level of Home Office spending on record and up by more than a third in a year....."
"....35,651 asylum seekers were being housed in hotels in Britain at the end of September, up more than 6,000 since the end of June, signalling the first quarterly rise for a year....."
How many gangs have you "smashed" so far Sir Kier ? - ( that's a zero out of ten from me then )
The Royal Navy should patrol the Channel for migrant boats, return the passengers to France and destroy the vessels, a military expert has said.- ( that's a ten out of ten for me )
Illegal immigration is less than 10%.ForFolksSake wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 10:08 am"....more than 20,000 migrants have arrived in Britain after crossing the Channel since Sir Starmer became Prime Minister........"
"......the number of migrants arriving via the perilous route in 2022 (45,774) was higher than 2021 (28,526) and 2020 (8,466), according to figures from the University of Oxford's Migration Observatory...."
".....the cost of the UK's asylum system has risen to £5billion, the highest level of Home Office spending on record and up by more than a third in a year....."
"....35,651 asylum seekers were being housed in hotels in Britain at the end of September, up more than 6,000 since the end of June, signalling the first quarterly rise for a year....."
How many gangs have you "smashed" so far Sir Kier ? - ( that's a zero out of ten from me then )
The Royal Navy should patrol the Channel for migrant boats, return the passengers to France and destroy the vessels, a military expert has said.- ( that's a ten out of ten for me )
Are we a nation that pushes legitmate asylum seekers back into the fire?
The cost of asylum seekers is a drop in the sea compared to the active, vigorous tax evasion of the rich. Many of whom complain about immigration.
But anyhow. Whingeing after 6 months is pretty feeble when Labour are trying to correct 14 years of mismanagement.
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I didn’t know Manchester United is registered in a tax haven and as such legally pays no UK corporation tax.
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Man U (along with Gary Neville and Andy Burnham) have also been lobbying Government for the tax payer to fund a new stadium for them selling it as a "Wembley" of the north. They actively lobbied for public money at the Labour conference.Archery1969 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:02 pmI didn’t know Manchester United is registered in a tax haven and as such legally pays no UK corporation tax.
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greenmark wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 11:25 amIllegal immigration is less than 10%.ForFolksSake wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 10:08 am"....more than 20,000 migrants have arrived in Britain after crossing the Channel since Sir Starmer became Prime Minister........"
"......the number of migrants arriving via the perilous route in 2022 (45,774) was higher than 2021 (28,526) and 2020 (8,466), according to figures from the University of Oxford's Migration Observatory...."
".....the cost of the UK's asylum system has risen to £5billion, the highest level of Home Office spending on record and up by more than a third in a year....."
"....35,651 asylum seekers were being housed in hotels in Britain at the end of September, up more than 6,000 since the end of June, signalling the first quarterly rise for a year....."
How many gangs have you "smashed" so far Sir Kier ? - ( that's a zero out of ten from me then )
The Royal Navy should patrol the Channel for migrant boats, return the passengers to France and destroy the vessels, a military expert has said.- ( that's a ten out of ten for me )
Are we a nation that pushes legitmate asylum seekers back into the fire?
The cost of asylum seekers is a drop in the sea compared to the active, vigorous tax evasion of the rich. Many of whom complain about immigration.
But anyhow. Whingeing after 6 months is pretty feeble when Labour are trying to correct 14 years of mismanagement.
And are we a nation that wants to see immigrants drown wile crossing the channel in dinghies ( 50 so far this year )Are we a nation that pushes legitmate asylum seekers back into the fire?
the cost of the UK's asylum system has risen to £5billion, with the average cost of housing and supporting an asylum seeker increasing from £17,000 in 2019/20 to £41,000 in 2023/24. The UK spent £4.3 billion on asylum seekers in 2023, up from £3.7 billion in 2022. The Home Office's spending on asylum rose by 36% from 2022/23 to 2023/24The cost of asylum seekers is a drop in the sea compared to the active, vigorous tax evasion of the rich
This equates to HM Revenue & Customs (HMRC) estimate that tax evasion costs around £5 billion a year in lost revenue and is most prevalent among small businesses
....and uk gdp is 2.2trillion. The immigration bill (even your figures are correct) is less than peanuts.ForFolksSake wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:47 pmgreenmark wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 11:25 amIllegal immigration is less than 10%.ForFolksSake wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 10:08 am
"....more than 20,000 migrants have arrived in Britain after crossing the Channel since Sir Starmer became Prime Minister........"
"......the number of migrants arriving via the perilous route in 2022 (45,774) was higher than 2021 (28,526) and 2020 (8,466), according to figures from the University of Oxford's Migration Observatory...."
".....the cost of the UK's asylum system has risen to £5billion, the highest level of Home Office spending on record and up by more than a third in a year....."
"....35,651 asylum seekers were being housed in hotels in Britain at the end of September, up more than 6,000 since the end of June, signalling the first quarterly rise for a year....."
How many gangs have you "smashed" so far Sir Kier ? - ( that's a zero out of ten from me then )
The Royal Navy should patrol the Channel for migrant boats, return the passengers to France and destroy the vessels, a military expert has said.- ( that's a ten out of ten for me )
Are we a nation that pushes legitmate asylum seekers back into the fire?
The cost of asylum seekers is a drop in the sea compared to the active, vigorous tax evasion of the rich. Many of whom complain about immigration.
But anyhow. Whingeing after 6 months is pretty feeble when Labour are trying to correct 14 years of mismanagement.And are we a nation that wants to see immigrants drown wile crossing the channel in dinghies ( 50 so far this year )Are we a nation that pushes legitmate asylum seekers back into the fire?
the cost of the UK's asylum system has risen to £5billion, with the average cost of housing and supporting an asylum seeker increasing from £17,000 in 2019/20 to £41,000 in 2023/24. The UK spent £4.3 billion on asylum seekers in 2023, up from £3.7 billion in 2022. The Home Office's spending on asylum rose by 36% from 2022/23 to 2023/24The cost of asylum seekers is a drop in the sea compared to the active, vigorous tax evasion of the rich
This equates to HM Revenue & Customs (HMRC) estimates that tax evasion costs around £5 billion a year in lost revenue and is most prevalent among small businesses
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.... and they have stopped the winter fuel payment to pensioners to save £1.4 billiongreenmark wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:55 pm....and uk gdp is 2.2trillion. The immigration bill (even your figures are correct) is less than peanuts.ForFolksSake wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:47 pmgreenmark wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 11:25 am
Illegal immigration is less than 10%.
Are we a nation that pushes legitmate asylum seekers back into the fire?
The cost of asylum seekers is a drop in the sea compared to the active, vigorous tax evasion of the rich. Many of whom complain about immigration.
But anyhow. Whingeing after 6 months is pretty feeble when Labour are trying to correct 14 years of mismanagement.And are we a nation that wants to see immigrants drown wile crossing the channel in dinghies ( 50 so far this year )Are we a nation that pushes legitmate asylum seekers back into the fire?
the cost of the UK's asylum system has risen to £5billion, with the average cost of housing and supporting an asylum seeker increasing from £17,000 in 2019/20 to £41,000 in 2023/24. The UK spent £4.3 billion on asylum seekers in 2023, up from £3.7 billion in 2022. The Home Office's spending on asylum rose by 36% from 2022/23 to 2023/24The cost of asylum seekers is a drop in the sea compared to the active, vigorous tax evasion of the rich
This equates to HM Revenue & Customs (HMRC) estimates that tax evasion costs around £5 billion a year in lost revenue and is most prevalent among small businesses
... peanuts
What a F*ckn liberty
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Labour have been promising all the no holds barred data since September on immigration and a Labour minister in the house last week promised a big data drop last Friday, they failed to publish it.ForFolksSake wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:47 pmgreenmark wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 11:25 amIllegal immigration is less than 10%.ForFolksSake wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 10:08 am
"....more than 20,000 migrants have arrived in Britain after crossing the Channel since Sir Starmer became Prime Minister........"
"......the number of migrants arriving via the perilous route in 2022 (45,774) was higher than 2021 (28,526) and 2020 (8,466), according to figures from the University of Oxford's Migration Observatory...."
".....the cost of the UK's asylum system has risen to £5billion, the highest level of Home Office spending on record and up by more than a third in a year....."
"....35,651 asylum seekers were being housed in hotels in Britain at the end of September, up more than 6,000 since the end of June, signalling the first quarterly rise for a year....."
How many gangs have you "smashed" so far Sir Kier ? - ( that's a zero out of ten from me then )
The Royal Navy should patrol the Channel for migrant boats, return the passengers to France and destroy the vessels, a military expert has said.- ( that's a ten out of ten for me )
Are we a nation that pushes legitmate asylum seekers back into the fire?
The cost of asylum seekers is a drop in the sea compared to the active, vigorous tax evasion of the rich. Many of whom complain about immigration.
But anyhow. Whingeing after 6 months is pretty feeble when Labour are trying to correct 14 years of mismanagement.And are we a nation that wants to see immigrants drown wile crossing the channel in dinghies ( 50 so far this year )Are we a nation that pushes legitmate asylum seekers back into the fire?
the cost of the UK's asylum system has risen to £5billion, with the average cost of housing and supporting an asylum seeker increasing from £17,000 in 2019/20 to £41,000 in 2023/24. The UK spent £4.3 billion on asylum seekers in 2023, up from £3.7 billion in 2022. The Home Office's spending on asylum rose by 36% from 2022/23 to 2023/24The cost of asylum seekers is a drop in the sea compared to the active, vigorous tax evasion of the rich
This equates to HM Revenue & Customs (HMRC) estimates that tax evasion costs around £5 billion a year in lost revenue and is most prevalent among small businesses
But they have actively sought out those not claiming pension credit. You can criticise but keep it in context. Perhaps you should criticise those rich pensioners that pocketed the energy allowance in the past. But maybe they all donated that money to a charity of their choice. Who knows!ForFolksSake wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 4:02 pm.... and they have stopped the winter fuel payment to pensioners to save £1.4 billiongreenmark wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:55 pm....and uk gdp is 2.2trillion. The immigration bill (even your figures are correct) is less than peanuts.ForFolksSake wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:47 pm
And are we a nation that wants to see immigrants drown wile crossing the channel in dinghies ( 50 so far this year )
the cost of the UK's asylum system has risen to £5billion, with the average cost of housing and supporting an asylum seeker increasing from £17,000 in 2019/20 to £41,000 in 2023/24. The UK spent £4.3 billion on asylum seekers in 2023, up from £3.7 billion in 2022. The Home Office's spending on asylum rose by 36% from 2022/23 to 2023/24
This equates to HM Revenue & Customs (HMRC) estimates that tax evasion costs around £5 billion a year in lost revenue and is most prevalent among small businesses
... peanuts
What a F*ckn liberty
And still the 6 months vs 14 years pertains.
No amount of right wing static clammer wiil convince me for the duration of this parliament. The Tories left a total shit-show behind them. Their griping now is transparently desperate.
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How about this stat? In London in 2022 66.5 per cent of all the babies born in the capital were born of foreign mothersMichael5482 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 4:06 pmLabour have been promising all the no holds barred data since September on immigration and a Labour minister in the house last week promised a big data drop last Friday, they failed to publish it.ForFolksSake wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:47 pmgreenmark wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 11:25 am
Illegal immigration is less than 10%.
Are we a nation that pushes legitmate asylum seekers back into the fire?
The cost of asylum seekers is a drop in the sea compared to the active, vigorous tax evasion of the rich. Many of whom complain about immigration.
But anyhow. Whingeing after 6 months is pretty feeble when Labour are trying to correct 14 years of mismanagement.And are we a nation that wants to see immigrants drown wile crossing the channel in dinghies ( 50 so far this year )Are we a nation that pushes legitmate asylum seekers back into the fire?
the cost of the UK's asylum system has risen to £5billion, with the average cost of housing and supporting an asylum seeker increasing from £17,000 in 2019/20 to £41,000 in 2023/24. The UK spent £4.3 billion on asylum seekers in 2023, up from £3.7 billion in 2022. The Home Office's spending on asylum rose by 36% from 2022/23 to 2023/24The cost of asylum seekers is a drop in the sea compared to the active, vigorous tax evasion of the rich
This equates to HM Revenue & Customs (HMRC) estimates that tax evasion costs around £5 billion a year in lost revenue and is most prevalent among small businesses
Birmingham foreign births are running at 43.6 per cent.
Manchester keeps those numbers hidden.
100,000 migrants have been granted asylum in the last year. What is incredible is that over 70 per cent didn’t arrive by small boats coming across the channel.