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ForFolksSake
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greenmark wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 8:06 pm
ForFolksSake wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:50 pm
greenmark wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:17 pm

Still waiting for you to substantiate your claim that the Labour Party is racist. Silence follows bullshit.
Do you mean the silence following the Labour bullshit of not wanting to investigate the ‘grooming gangs’ scandal for fear of being called ‘ racist - Shameless
I'm sure if there was anything to be investigated it will have been.
But you still have not presented a shred of justification for your accusation that the Labour Party has always been racist.
I could say Tory's have always been racist. Or the EDL, National Front and BNP were all racist, but I'd have to provide some evidence. But I didn't say that did I?
Shameless racists

Labour has been blasted after allegedly suggesting that using the term "grooming gangs" is racist against Muslims.

The party included the term in its "definition and examples" of Islamophobia that it adopted following a 2018 report, reports The Times.

The document, drawn up by an all-party parliamentary group (APPG) of MPs headed up by now Health Secretary Wes Streeting, contained the wording in inverted commas to suggest that it was racist.
greenmark
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ForFolksSake wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 1:49 pm
greenmark wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 8:06 pm
ForFolksSake wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:50 pm


Do you mean the silence following the Labour bullshit of not wanting to investigate the ‘grooming gangs’ scandal for fear of being called ‘ racist - Shameless
I'm sure if there was anything to be investigated it will have been.
But you still have not presented a shred of justification for your accusation that the Labour Party has always been racist.
I could say Tory's have always been racist. Or the EDL, National Front and BNP were all racist, but I'd have to provide some evidence. But I didn't say that did I?
Shameless racists

Labour has been blasted after allegedly suggesting that using the term "grooming gangs" is racist against Muslims.

The party included the term in its "definition and examples" of Islamophobia that it adopted following a 2018 report, reports The Times.

The document, drawn up by an all-party parliamentary group (APPG) of MPs headed up by now Health Secretary Wes Streeting, contained the wording in inverted commas to suggest that it was racist.
Excellent cut and paste from the Daily Express, so ever so slightly politically biased, perhaps. BTW why do you reply to your own posts?
ForFolksSake
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greenmark wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 10:58 pm
ForFolksSake wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 1:49 pm
greenmark wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 8:06 pm

I'm sure if there was anything to be investigated it will have been.
But you still have not presented a shred of justification for your accusation that the Labour Party has always been racist.
I could say Tory's have always been racist. Or the EDL, National Front and BNP were all racist, but I'd have to provide some evidence. But I didn't say that did I?
Shameless racists

Labour has been blasted after allegedly suggesting that using the term "grooming gangs" is racist against Muslims.

The party included the term in its "definition and examples" of Islamophobia that it adopted following a 2018 report, reports The Times.

The document, drawn up by an all-party parliamentary group (APPG) of MPs headed up by now Health Secretary Wes Streeting, contained the wording in inverted commas to suggest that it was racist.
BTW why do you reply to your own posts?
To edit/add new comment/add file etc etc etc. 1️⃣➕1️⃣=🤔
Which post are you referring to out of interest ?
Last edited by ForFolksSake on Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:11 pm, edited 1 time in total.
greenmark
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ForFolksSake wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:27 am
greenmark wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 10:58 pm
ForFolksSake wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 1:49 pm


Shameless racists

Labour has been blasted after allegedly suggesting that using the term "grooming gangs" is racist against Muslims.

The party included the term in its "definition and examples" of Islamophobia that it adopted following a 2018 report, reports The Times.

The document, drawn up by an all-party parliamentary group (APPG) of MPs headed up by now Health Secretary Wes Streeting, contained the wording in inverted commas to suggest that it was racist.
BTW why do you reply to your own posts?
To edit/add comment/add file etc etc etc. 1️⃣➕1️⃣=🤔
Which post are you referring to out of interest ?
I don't want to clog the thread but look at viewtopic.php?p=370797#p370797
Not an edit IMO. Just an afterthought to throw at the wall and see if it sticks.
ForFolksSake
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greenmark wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:53 am
ForFolksSake wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:27 am
greenmark wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 10:58 pm


BTW why do you reply to your own posts?
To edit/add comment/add file etc etc etc. 1️⃣➕1️⃣=🤔
Which post are you referring to out of interest ?
I don't want to clog the thread but look at viewtopic.php?p=370797#p370797
Not an edit IMO. Just an afterthought to throw at the wall and see if it sticks.
That's right it's not an edit - it's an additional new comment following on from an old one

But a very beneficial afterthought

It's already stuck in case you haven't noticed

Everybody and their dog are betting against the pound at the moment - if you are quick you might make some money from Labour's cock-up 💰

IMF bailout 2.0? UK faces Truss-style chaos on Rachel Reeves’ watch

https://www.business-money.com/announce ... ves-watch/
greenmark
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ForFolksSake wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 12:02 pm
greenmark wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:53 am
ForFolksSake wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:27 am


To edit/add comment/add file etc etc etc. 1️⃣➕1️⃣=🤔
Which post are you referring to out of interest ?
I don't want to clog the thread but look at viewtopic.php?p=370797#p370797
Not an edit IMO. Just an afterthought to throw at the wall and see if it sticks.
That's right it's not an edit - it's an additional new comment following on from an old one

But a very beneficial afterthought

It's already stuck in case you haven't noticed

Everybody and their dog are betting against the pound at the moment - if you are quick you might make some money from Labour's cock-up 💰

IMF bailout 2.0? UK faces Truss-style chaos on Rachel Reeves’ watch

https://www.business-money.com/announce ... ves-watch/
Another direct quote from the Express.
I applaud references for opinions. But I'm afraid I've been reading Express drivel for more than 40 years so it's unlikely we will ever agree on anything. Interestingly way back I associated with hard left people and I concluded they were nuts. Challenge them on anything and they would quote from the Communist Manifesto in the way religious zealots quote the Bible, Quaran etc, as if any of the above are really true.

Why can't we focus together on the problems we have? We have so many of them it needs a team approach.
ForFolksSake
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greenmark wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:11 pm
ForFolksSake wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 12:02 pm
greenmark wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:53 am

I don't want to clog the thread but look at viewtopic.php?p=370797#p370797
Not an edit IMO. Just an afterthought to throw at the wall and see if it sticks.
That's right it's not an edit - it's an additional new comment following on from an old one

But a very beneficial afterthought

It's already stuck in case you haven't noticed

Everybody and their dog are betting against the pound at the moment - if you are quick you might make some money from Labour's cock-up 💰

IMF bailout 2.0? UK faces Truss-style chaos on Rachel Reeves’ watch

https://www.business-money.com/announce ... ves-watch/
Why can't we focus together on the problems we have? We have so many of them it needs a team approach.


We haven't got any problems according to what Lisa Nandy said today

She told Sky News that there was no need to worry and that the UK was “still on track to be the fastest-growing economy, according to the OECD, in Europe”
What planet is she on :lol:
greenmark
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ForFolksSake wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:27 pm
greenmark wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:11 pm
ForFolksSake wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 12:02 pm


That's right it's not an edit - it's an additional new comment following on from an old one

But a very beneficial afterthought

It's already stuck in case you haven't noticed

Everybody and their dog are betting against the pound at the moment - if you are quick you might make some money from Labour's cock-up 💰

IMF bailout 2.0? UK faces Truss-style chaos on Rachel Reeves’ watch

https://www.business-money.com/announce ... ves-watch/
Why can't we focus together on the problems we have? We have so many of them it needs a team approach.


We haven't got any problems according to what Lisa Nandy said today

She told Sky News that there was no need to worry and that the UK was “still on track to be the fastest-growing economy, according to the OECD, in Europe”
What planet is she on :lol:
The same planet as Sunak not long ago. Growing fast from doldrums isn't that difficult. X% of rubbish is still rubbish
Labour have inherited a total mess produced by 14 years of Tory rule, there is no question about that. The question is what do we do now?
The criticisms of Labour seems to be WASPI, fuel allowance.
Nobody mentions how inwars inestment to the UK has tanked sine 2016....... what happened in 2016?
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jamesedwards
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Give it a rest, guys. You're not going to agree and you're not going to convince the other to change their view either.

Stay cool. 8-)
ForFolksSake
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jamesedwards wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:45 pm
Give it a rest, guys. You're not going to agree and you're not going to convince the other to change their view either.

Stay cool. 8-)
Peace 🤝
greenmark
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ForFolksSake wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 6:00 pm
jamesedwards wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:45 pm
Give it a rest, guys. You're not going to agree and you're not going to convince the other to change their view either.

Stay cool. 8-)
Peace 🤝
Agreed.
And since I'm a bit Buddhst "I wish you well".
sionascaig
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And in some heart warming news a pile a Reform councillors have resigned due to Farage not supporting demands for far right racist, criminal & all round big baby Yaxley Lennon to be released from prison (he tried to collapse a rape trial)...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0lz8xn8zd8o

Will save him the trouble of booting them out I suppose.
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jamesedwards
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Reform now 5/2 to get most seats at next general election. Incredible.
sionascaig
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jamesedwards wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:07 pm
Reform now 5/2 to get most seats at next general election. Incredible.
Yup. He is wiping the floor with other Politian's which says something about their quality.

(and his approach to dealing with the nut jobs will probably win him more support than lose)
Michael5482
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sionascaig wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:24 pm
jamesedwards wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:07 pm
Reform now 5/2 to get most seats at next general election. Incredible.
Yup. He is wiping the floor with other Politian's which says something about their quality.

(and his approach to dealing with the nut jobs will probably win him more support than lose)
He's too good for Badenoch she's wet behind the lugs and no match for Farage as for Starmer he looks like he's at a funeral every time you hear him. Be interesting when Trump gets in I reckon Farage will use it to his advantage no question and play Starmer like a fiddle.

Love or loath Farage has got them all dancing to his tune, it's not taken him long either.
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