Dutch 1st, 2nd & 3rd Fav Guardian Automation Bot

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Wan1628
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Thanks for the quick reply Dallas
Ok just delete the selection 3 ? Don’t need change anything else ?

But won’t the stored range say 60 to 80 % be from fav 1 , 2 and 3 ? I want only 1 and 2 then when it hits between 60% to 80% it ditches them both for book%
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Wan1628 wrote:
Sat Jun 11, 2022 2:56 pm
Thanks for the quick reply Dallas
Ok just delete the selection 3 ? Don’t need change anything else ?

But won’t the stored range say 60 to 80 % be from fav 1 , 2 and 3 ? I want only 1 and 2 then when it hits between 60% to 80% it ditches them both for book%
I think its possibly this file you are using?
viewtopic.php?f=52&t=16351
NotBothered
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I have been working with Dutching and Greyhounds

maybe this may help slightly.

You cannot just Dutch the Top 3 favorites and win in every race - you would need to select the ideal conditions and just bet those races.

So you need to create some conditions that figure out what those events would look like.

Also I looked at Dutching 2/3/4 against the main greyhound - but this was quite hard to do and make profits each day -- some days great - others not so much ... if your in it for the long term then you could perhaps do more work on it and figure it out -- but I just went back to the top 3... seemed to be much more straight forward.
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lazzasurf wrote:
Sun May 29, 2016 3:59 pm
Hello

I had good success with a alternative programme dutching the field (other software). What i'd do was dutch the field to 80% for a total of £50 with a average profit per race of £2-£4, small but consistent and depending on the amount of horses running. I had a 32 horse winning streak at one point before a horse not dutched would win, wiping out my prefit for the day. (it was a disturbing moment watching a 50-1 romp home ahead of a odds on favorite) I was unable to set up a stoploss that would trigger at a given sum say £25 and i wasn't quick enough to do it manually, a fair loss but it would still leave me with a overall profit.
Is such a bot possible with betangel? (ditched other software now and have a betangel sub)
Iv'e had a look but cant see a dutching % option. I got the idea from this video and evolved it from there.



Many thanks..
What does ditching the field to 80% mean ?

Surely when you start ducting some low odds favorites you sometimes can't Dutch that many ?
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NotBothered wrote:
Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:28 pm
I have been working with Dutching and Greyhounds

maybe this may help slightly.

You cannot just Dutch the Top 3 favorites and win in every race - you would need to select the ideal conditions and just bet those races.

So you need to create some conditions that figure out what those events would look like.

Also I looked at Dutching 2/3/4 against the main greyhound - but this was quite hard to do and make profits each day -- some days great - others not so much ... if your in it for the long term then you could perhaps do more work on it and figure it out -- but I just went back to the top 3... seemed to be much more straight forward.
As a starting point, reset, why don't use simply Dutch BACK R1,2,3 for a target profit, then R4,5,6 for the same target profit. Then START filtering ....
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Is there any way this can have a condition added to prevent it from betting when the outcome is negative?
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dagetu wrote:
Mon Nov 14, 2022 12:53 pm
Is there any way this can have a condition added to prevent it from betting when the outcome is negative?
You can add a book% condition which will stop it triggering when the runners you want to dutch don't cover 'X' percentage of the book like the following example
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Bet79
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Hi Dallas
I have this Dutch 3 selections
bot set to Nominated selections 1/2/3 ,how can I stop it placing any bets if one of my selections is a non runner?
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Bet79 wrote:
Mon May 13, 2024 10:50 pm
Hi Dallas
I have this Dutch 3 selections
bot set to Nominated selections 1/2/3 ,how can I stop it placing any bets if one of my selections is a non runner?
Create a set/modify signal applied to nominated selection 1 (armed to trigger just before your dutch bets
and on the signal tab 'increment a signal' on the market with a name of your choice

then duplicate that rule and apply it to nominated selection 2
and again for selection 3

Then on each of the dutch bet rules add a 'Signal value condition' to test the signal named (whatever you called it) has a value equal to 3
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Thanks
firech8787
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hi, bit confused.

I've imported the file and uploaded it to guardian.

selected all the markets i wanted it to run in (greyhounds)

then added it to the automation rules 1 column next to every selection.

the only thing I've changed is change it from £10 to £1.

but its not placing the trades.

thought it may be a problem with the refresh interval so I changed it to 20.

correction - I've noticed it places the trades if I'm on the main dutching screen on the actual race, but no trades are placed if leave the automation to just do its job.

cheers
chris
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firech8787 wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2025 12:55 pm
hi, bit confused.

I've imported the file and uploaded it to guardian.

selected all the markets i wanted it to run in (greyhounds)

then added it to the automation rules 1 column next to every selection.

the only thing I've changed is change it from £10 to £1.

but its not placing the trades.

thought it may be a problem with the refresh interval so I changed it to 20.

correction - I've noticed it places the trades if I'm on the main dutching screen on the actual race, but no trades are placed if leave the automation to just do its job.

cheers
chris
It will be your Guardian refresh rate to slow for the number of markets you have loaded
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firech8787
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hi I've changed it to 20 milliseconds but it is still not catching all the races.

I'm up loading every UK greyhound race into guardian to run the dutch top3 automation. (trying to see if some distances are more successful than others)

is there anything i can do?

cheers
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firech8787 wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2025 1:17 pm
hi I've changed it to 20 milliseconds but it is still not catching all the races.

I'm up loading every UK greyhound race into guardian to run the dutch top3 automation. (trying to see if some distances are more successful than others)

is there anything i can do?

cheers
You can increase the time the rule is armed for (it was set to the last 3secs before the start time), as some greyhound races go off before their official start time you could arm the rules to trigger from something like 00:00:59 secs before start until 00:00:00

It'll then have more than enough window of time to trigger in and catch any races that go off earlier than they are meant to
firech8787
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Thank you appreciate it
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