Horse Racing In Play Issue

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gavla1972
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Hi, am hoping for some help.

Betfair have told me I am getting a substantial number of "BET_TAKEN_OR_LAPSED' errors during in play horse racing markets. They say the most likely reason is that the automation rule is trying to cancel a bet that has already been matched. It is causing my transactions to skyrocket causing transaction fees.

Has anyone had this problem and been able to fix it?
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Dallas
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How often are you triggering a 'Cancel unmatched bets' rule

Also what refresh rate are you using in Guardian and how many markets do you have loaded at a time
gavla1972
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Unlimited triggers. Refresh interval 20ms. Market loads variable
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jamesedwards
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I went over transactions once. I knew I had, as I was experimenting with some high transaction automations. I asked Betfair for a breakdown of the charge and all they sent me was a generic sounding "The charge was dominated by failed transactions, specifically with the error code “BET_TAKEN_OR_LAPSED”.

This was definitely not the case for me, mine was made only of bets and successful cancellations. So if you're going on the exact same line from Betfair then take it with a pinch of salt, it might not be factual.
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jamesedwards
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Try using a stored value that increments by 1 every time a bet is triggered, or a bet is cancelled. Then compare this stored value to the Bet Angel Tx count.

If you're still using an old version of Bet Angel then you can also use this stored value to stop the automation from further triggers when it gets close to the limit. (In the latest beta release 1.62 you can save the Tx count as a stored value and use this instead.)
gavla1972
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Dallas wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2024 11:53 am
How often are you triggering a 'Cancel unmatched bets' rule

Also what refresh rate are you using in Guardian and how many markets do you have loaded at a time
G'day Dallas,

I wondered if you had any thoughts on my answer to your questions?
gavla1972
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Hi,

I have noticed this afternoon that bet angel is late in detecting the start of Australian horse races. Betfair is turning the market inplay at the correct time but there is a delay of up to 10 seconds for bet angel to detect it. It then goes inplay and starts the automation process. Anyone else noticed this? Is it new? It's a problem.

GR
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Dallas
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gavla1972 wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2024 1:54 pm
Dallas wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2024 11:53 am
How often are you triggering a 'Cancel unmatched bets' rule

Also what refresh rate are you using in Guardian and how many markets do you have loaded at a time
G'day Dallas,

I wondered if you had any thoughts on my answer to your questions?
If you have it set to unlimited triggers with no or few conditions then that will be the cause
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Dallas
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gavla1972 wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2025 6:31 am
Hi,

I have noticed this afternoon that bet angel is late in detecting the start of Australian horse races. Betfair is turning the market inplay at the correct time but there is a delay of up to 10 seconds for bet angel to detect it. It then goes inplay and starts the automation process. Anyone else noticed this? Is it new? It's a problem.

GR
Bet Angel is installed on your local PC and connects directly to Betfairs servers and retrieves all its data from their
First make sure your PC clock is sync'd and correct, you may also have intermittent issues with your connection
Anbell
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gavla1972 wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2025 6:31 am
Hi,

I have noticed this afternoon that bet angel is late in detecting the start of Australian horse races. Betfair is turning the market inplay at the correct time but there is a delay of up to 10 seconds for bet angel to detect it. It then goes inplay and starts the automation process. Anyone else noticed this? Is it new? It's a problem.

GR
It is possibly a refresh issue.
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