SPAM Wars - Episode 1 - A new hope

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ForFolksSake
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Euler wrote:
Fri Apr 25, 2025 10:29 am
A very clever attempt this morning, but 100% AI generated.
What's the problem with a 100% AI generated statement/question.

whether it's Ai generated or not it's perfectly valid 🤔
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ForFolksSake wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 9:50 am
Euler wrote:
Fri Apr 25, 2025 10:29 am
A very clever attempt this morning, but 100% AI generated.
What's the problem with a 100% generated statement/question.

whether it's Ai generated or not it's perfectly valid 🤔
i think it's not so much the content as the INTENT.. it's spammed, rather than a real user with a genuine question. ;)
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jimibt wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 9:58 am
ForFolksSake wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 9:50 am
Euler wrote:
Fri Apr 25, 2025 10:29 am
A very clever attempt this morning, but 100% AI generated.
What's the problem with a 100% generated statement/question.

whether it's Ai generated or not it's perfectly valid 🤔
i think it's not so much the content as the INTENT.. it's spammed, rather than a real user with a genuine question. ;)
But how do you know it's not a real user - it could have been you or me asking that question
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ForFolksSake wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 10:05 am
jimibt wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 9:58 am
ForFolksSake wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 9:50 am


What's the problem with a 100% generated statement/question.

whether it's Ai generated or not it's perfectly valid 🤔
i think it's not so much the content as the INTENT.. it's spammed, rather than a real user with a genuine question. ;)
But how do you know it's not a real user - it could have been you or me asking that question
i imagine because it was a new user - one for the big E to answer i guess ;)
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jimibt wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 10:17 am
ForFolksSake wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 10:05 am
jimibt wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 9:58 am


i think it's not so much the content as the INTENT.. it's spammed, rather than a real user with a genuine question. ;)
But how do you know it's not a real user - it could have been you or me asking that question
i imagine because it was a new user - one for the big E to answer i guess ;)
So a 'new' user is not a 'real' user

Or if you are a 'new' user don't ask such an advanced question 🤔
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Euler
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They ask a seemingly valid question, lie dormat for a while then we wake up to the forum full of spam one day.

And also, there is a really clever trick they can use to link to a site in what looks like a perfectly valid post. So this is the first step, getting the ability to post.

We know people are selling backlinks to the site and suspect they are the people trying hard to get access, so they can get that backlink.
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Euler
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Take a look at this post: -

viewtopic.php?p=371062#p371062

The same person appeared on the forum this morning to try and spam it, but got caught by our filter.

We've gone for it in terms of stopping this sort of behaviour as we don't want valid posters wasting their time responding to AI.
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Euler
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Not sure what it is about this, but something tells me it's spam?
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Wonder if she does massages!

What is the spams intentions? what's persons behinds its goal?
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Euler wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 10:44 am
They ask a seemingly valid question, lie dormat for a while then we wake up to the forum full of spam one day.

And also, there is a really clever trick they can use to link to a site in what looks like a perfectly valid post. So this is the first step, getting the ability to post.

We know people are selling backlinks to the site and suspect they are the people trying hard to get access, so they can get that backlink.
Yep, that will be someone with the software XRummer selling backlink packages.

Thought the world of SEO had moved on from backlink spamming 15 years ago :lol: . It used to be you could jump up google rank just by backlink spamming. Google put a stop to this a long time ago so don't know why people still bother, unless its purely for a few rogue clicks to the website.

Looks like they have added some new functionality. Monitoring their updates is probably a good way to stop a lot of the spam as most people use XRumer:

"An important update for XRumer 23.0.5 StrongAI introduces a significant enhancement: self-learning for unknown fields and text CAPTCHAs using GPT (with support for GPT-compatible APIs). Other key improvements include increased success rates for forums, contact forms, and other platforms, as well as expanded functionality."
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Fugazi wrote:
Tue May 13, 2025 11:25 pm
Euler wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 10:44 am
They ask a seemingly valid question, lie dormat for a while then we wake up to the forum full of spam one day.

And also, there is a really clever trick they can use to link to a site in what looks like a perfectly valid post. So this is the first step, getting the ability to post.

We know people are selling backlinks to the site and suspect they are the people trying hard to get access, so they can get that backlink.
Yep, that will be someone with the software XRummer selling backlink packages.

Thought the world of SEO had moved on from backlink spamming 15 years ago :lol: . It used to be you could jump up google rank just by backlink spamming. Google put a stop to this a long time ago so don't know why people still bother, unless its purely for a few rogue clicks to the website.

Looks like they have added some new functionality. Monitoring their updates is probably a good way to stop a lot of the spam as most people use XRumer:

"An important update for XRumer 23.0.5 StrongAI introduces a significant enhancement: self-learning for unknown fields and text CAPTCHAs using GPT (with support for GPT-compatible APIs). Other key improvements include increased success rates for forums, contact forms, and other platforms, as well as expanded functionality."
It's clearly a minefield, and I for one applaud the efforts of Peter, Dallas et al in keeping a spam-free 'clean' forum for genuine human beings.

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