Running Daily Profit & Loss Total - Guardian Automation Bot

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Dallas
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reebed1 wrote:
Sat Apr 19, 2025 4:56 pm
Dear Dallas, thank you for the reply.

You quoted: Its not to clear exactly what values you wanted so for the purposes of illustration those conditions would stop your rule triggering if your profit exceeded £210 or your loss exceeded -£200

Just to make sure:

if your profit exceeded £210. You have the setting as less than or equal to. Should this not be greater than or equal to? Profit reaches £210 or more, system stops laying bets.
or your loss exceeded -£200. You have setting as greater than or equal to. I agree with this. Losses reaches £200 plus, system stops.

Thank you.

if your profit exceeded £210. You have the setting as less than or equal to. Should this not be greater than or equal to? Profit reaches £210 or more, system stops laying bets.
No, otherwise your rule won't trigger until your profit is greater than £210 - which it never will be if this is the only strategy you are using as it'll never be able to trigger.
The condition allows the rule to trigger providing your profit is less than £210, once your profit is over £210 the condition is no longer satisfied and the rule can no longer trigger - ie it stops triggering once you've reached a £210+ profit


or your loss exceeded -£200. You have setting as greater than or equal to. I agree with this. Losses reaches £200 plus, system stops.
Greater than -£200 means your loss is up to -£200, less than -£200 means its over -£200, think of the values as like a ladder

5
4
3
2
1
0
-1
-2
-3
-4
-5

If your loss is greater than -4 then it will be any of the values above it, if its less than -4 its any value below it

So you want the rule to trigger providing your loss is still a greater value than -£200, once its less than -£200 (ie, exceeds -£200) the condition is no longer satisfied and the rule is no longer able to trigger.
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reebed1
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Thank you Dallas. I understand now.
Oscar
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Never heard of this issue before. Perhaps make sure your background app permissions are set correctly? https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/win ... windows_10

Hi James,
Thanks for the link and suggestion re getting my log to work whilst in "Lock screen".
Unfortunately that didn't work.
If I'm the only person who has experienced this anomaly, maybe I should revert back to default settings?
Thanks for taking the time to respond anyway.
Scotty66
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I'm having some trouble getting my head around what I need to do to add the following to this great automation file.

I would like to start with a balance of say 500 on the very first market. Then add/subtract the p/l of that race to my 500 bank,and in the following race to only place lay bets to 2% of the current bank on any selection within my other automation rules file.

At the end of the day I'd like the final balance to be stored and then used for the first race the following day, and then everything repeats again.

I've been messing around in practice mode but finding it hard as you can't store or start with a certain bank balance in practice mode (I don't think?)

Any help much appreciated.
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Scotty66 wrote:
Mon May 05, 2025 7:23 pm
I'm having some trouble getting my head around what I need to do to add the following to this great automation file.

I would like to start with a balance of say 500 on the very first market. Then add/subtract the p/l of that race to my 500 bank,and in the following race to only place lay bets to 2% of the current bank on any selection within my other automation rules file.

At the end of the day I'd like the final balance to be stored and then used for the first race the following day, and then everything repeats again.

I've been messing around in practice mode but finding it hard as you can't store or start with a certain bank balance in practice mode (I don't think?)

Any help much appreciated.
You won't be able to use your bank balance if the amount you want to start with has no correlation to it, instead you'd need to create a stored value to store an 'Entered Amount' and input 500 (or whatever amount you want to start with)

However unless you are going to leave your PC on with Bet Angel running then each new day/session you are going to need to manually edit that stored value to reflect the previous days P/L and to give it the new starting amount.
ie, a stored value from a previous session can't be referenced in a new one

For the purposes of Stored Values the practice mode bank assumes an amount of £1000 so you could start with your bank balance divided by 2
However as this would start again with a balance of £1000 each new session you'd need to leave your PC on and with Bet Angel running for it to roll the total over till the following day.
Scotty66
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Ok thanks, so editing the balance myself each day is no problem.

And linking another separate servant to use a percentage of the changing balance, I just need to make the stored value shared and then set the stake to a percentage of that?
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Tue May 06, 2025 12:55 pm
Ok thanks, so editing the balance myself each day is no problem.

And linking another separate servant to use a percentage of the changing balance, I just need to make the stored value shared and then set the stake to a percentage of that?
Yes, but if using the balance from one market to another it needs to be set at 'Bet Angel' level which is automatically marked as shared
Scotty66
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Hi Dallas so unfortunately I'm still having some problems, I've tried to combine the daily profit bot with my own bot that I use for certain selections but after testing today no bets were placed from my bot in practice mode.
4568 Bot was under rules file 1 in guardian and profit loss bot under rules file 2.
Before the 4568 bot worked fine when selecting fixed stake. I think it's something to do with the 4568 bot staking parameters that I have set to use 2% of the bank from the daily profit bot?

I also tried the "stake" rule in the profit bot as a stored value under "bank" in the store profit/loss each market rule but that didn't work, so that's why I've tried it as a separate rule,but still no joy.

Any chance you could have a look please to see why things are not working?

Even though I'm testing in practice mode I would eventually like to run this bot from my betfair balance but only use a certain amount. e.g if i have £200 in betfair I would like this to use £100 to start the day (then 2%) after the profit/loss from each race, while I can trade other markets.

Would that be possible or would my trading away from the bot effect the profit/loss figures to much?

Thanks.
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Scotty66
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Any ideas with this please?

I'm still trying to make it work but I'm getting errors of "this rule file can only be used as an automation servant" when I try and make one whole rules file to do everything instead of separate rules file 1 and 2.
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The rule (Stake) is set to (Servant context) selection, this should be (Any).
Also the SV (Stake) in the same rule, uses the SV (Bank) this should be set to (Bet angel) not selection.

The other thing I’ll mention but I’m not sure if this will cause any issues.
The (text comparison condition) list used in the Lay rule has a blank space at the bottom. I would remove it.
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Scotty66
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Brilliant, thanks for the help, will try it out later and see how it goes.

I update that text condition daily so I will make sure to not leave any blank spaces just in case 👍
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