Advance Charting

[Emtaxx]

Can you use advance charting to create signals in BA to trigger a back or lay bet?

Chat gpt says you cannot but deep seeks says you can.

Also having looked on BA YT lastnight PW discusses nowhere on how to accomplish this if you can.

Can anyone let me know if its possible to do at all? THX!

[tommyc333]

The charts are just a visual representation of the underlying market data.

Personally, I'd try and work out exactly what you were looking for in the charts to trigger your bets, quantify that in terms of numbers (eg., if you are looking for a drift during the last x seconds on a particular runner or whatever), and then build your conditions for the signal or place bet rule based on that.

[Emtaxx]

Damn that's crap! surprised it doesn't have this capability tbf

[Euler]

Damn that's crap! surprised it doesn't have this capability tbf

It does, what the reply was trying to say is that charts are data and therefore data are charts. You can see some examples here: -

viewtopic.php?t=27011

[Emtaxx]

Okay Euler thanks, I understand the tick now thanks.

Odd thing is, everything is so clear and so obvious at times now. It took me a while to figure out what works, but the markets are actually super simple and I cant stop seeing the pattern.

However the big problem Is, 1. how can I do this the easiest. 2. How much hair will I lose in the process!

[Emtaxx]

I guess a follow up question to this is...

How Can I upload and create a chrting type similar to what you have suggested. I can create something like that but how Can I get them to chart like Dallas has, that would be most insightful to see. I can then see if its doing exactly what I want

[ShaunWhite]

Obv a chart as such is no use to the automation, do you just want it to see if your bot is firing when you think it should be? What do you actually want the chart for?

I think you're describing a solution to a problem not the problem itself, and the solution you've thought of might not be the best approach.

Or are you looking for an archive of charts to visually look for a pattern and then write a bot to exploit it.

[Emtaxx]

So it would be insightful if I can see at what point my bot fired on relationship to the price and various indicators setup yes so a chart would be cool to visualise this. And further develop my understanding and experience.

And also the concept of what I’d like to do is store the price and various other indicators like the BA advance charting does. That’s why I was under the impression I could access the advance charts and set signals regarding set up of those. And now knowing I can’t I want to create a setup that Euler posted where Dallas has been able to incorporate it into a charting setup (so I can visually see if it’s doing what I want when placing automation bets etc)

[ShaunWhite]

I want to create a setup that Euler posted where Dallas has been able to incorporate it into a charting setup (so I can visually see if it’s doing what I want when placing automation bets etc)

I don't know BA well enough to help with that, i just wondered if it was something where we could think of an easy workaround.

[Emtaxx]

Yeah I agree. I think it’s a case of digging holes until one has gold in (as I’m a total noob and require fk around and find out method, 7 months in now! Time flys and im still a doughnut ..) But for what I want to do depending on what maths I can use, I feel with this kinds of stuff it potential could be an excel job but I’m hoping it doesn’t as that’s another out of my realm thing to learn, but I feel with what I’m after doing maths could be a little fancier. But I’m staying hopeful.!

[ShaunWhite]

that’s another out of my realm thing to learn,

This place hosts some good free training and it's structured so you don't just wander around aimlessly..

->https://www.udemy.com/topic/excel/?pric ... t-reviewed

I've always found the paid stuff to be good vfm too.

[Emtaxx]

Cheers Shaun, I'll see what BA can do for me first and then move onto that if need be

[Dallas]

I guess a follow up question to this is...

How Can I upload and create a chrting type similar to what you have suggested. I can create something like that but how Can I get them to chart like Dallas has, that would be most insightful to see. I can then see if its doing exactly what I want

In that example Euler linked to the market data ie, prices are stored to History lists, advanced charts can then be plotted using the data held in the History list (see 2nd post in the thread linked to earlier)

The same data in those history lists is also used to trigger the bets

So the bets don't get triggered off the chart pattern, as pointed out earlier its the same underlying data used to plot the chart which is also used to trigger bets.

So the first thing you'd do is store your data and create and advanced chart, then decide on the pattern you are looking for as your entry/exit, then build the rules file to trigger using the same data points that made the pattern

[Emtaxx]

Cool thanks Dallas for clarifying with your explanation. I'll work through it today cheers guys