Having a discussion on hedging in a volatile CS market and it comes up with the, slightly obscure reference, "Highlander" rule
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AI (Gemini in this case) does make me chuckle sometimes
Having a discussion on hedging in a volatile CS market and it comes up with the, slightly obscure reference, "Highlander" rule
Having a discussion on hedging in a volatile CS market and it comes up with the, slightly obscure reference, "Highlander" rule
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I've been using ChatGPT Atlas and the agents a lot in the last month. So much, it seems, that I just got a warning from OpenAI for usage limits. Didn't even know they had them, but I guess that makes sense. I must have tied up a lot of servers last month.
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Just got off a 2hr call with my girl about an assignment she submitted for her Masters degree that was initially flagged 45% plagiarism by Turnitin, the software lots of colleges/universities/other educational institutes use for plagiarism and AI generated similarities.
So after going through each part that was highlighted, literally every single part......nothing was plagiarised, just similarities as it was a group project with the same reading material so the same source/quote will be quoted many times, and the same articles will be in the bibliography many times, and generally.....people use the same phrases often in writing.
2 of the parts that came up as plagiarised were ridiculous examples of how bad AI can be:
"2.1 Personal Contribution
As the team leader of the project....."
"2.3 Key Project Management Lessons"
Now who the fuck owns those phrases that they could be considered plagiarism? Nobody, just general phrases used in assignments every day. Another flagged was "15 years in project management" regarding views on guest appearances during the course.....sure that would cover probably 10s of thousands of people on Linkedin if they own the phrase "15 years in project management"
Eventually after using a bucketload of excludes: quotes, references, bibliography, links etc, it got down to 7% plagiarism: some random shit, the college front page for submission, and the page numbers. Page numbers being plagiarism for fuck sake
My gripe is that this is all a laugh and a joke when we see obvious AI posts here or elsewhere online, but Turnitin is a "serious" educational tool used by facilities everywhere, and it's not fit for purpose if it's outright flagging peoples work as plagiarised when it's clearly not, the AI isn't intelligent enough to exclude the exclusion list.
I know many on the forum are of the age where they may have kids in college/university or getting close to that age, make sure you let them know my findings on Turnitin if they use it in their course work, 3rd level stuff is stressful enough without being falsely flagged as a cheater/plagiariser. Whatever LLM they're using hasn't used Artificial Intelligence, it's Dumb Extrapolation.
Thank you for attending my TedTalk rant, please exit through the gift shop on your way out
So after going through each part that was highlighted, literally every single part......nothing was plagiarised, just similarities as it was a group project with the same reading material so the same source/quote will be quoted many times, and the same articles will be in the bibliography many times, and generally.....people use the same phrases often in writing.
2 of the parts that came up as plagiarised were ridiculous examples of how bad AI can be:
"2.1 Personal Contribution
As the team leader of the project....."
"2.3 Key Project Management Lessons"
Now who the fuck owns those phrases that they could be considered plagiarism? Nobody, just general phrases used in assignments every day. Another flagged was "15 years in project management" regarding views on guest appearances during the course.....sure that would cover probably 10s of thousands of people on Linkedin if they own the phrase "15 years in project management"
Eventually after using a bucketload of excludes: quotes, references, bibliography, links etc, it got down to 7% plagiarism: some random shit, the college front page for submission, and the page numbers. Page numbers being plagiarism for fuck sake
My gripe is that this is all a laugh and a joke when we see obvious AI posts here or elsewhere online, but Turnitin is a "serious" educational tool used by facilities everywhere, and it's not fit for purpose if it's outright flagging peoples work as plagiarised when it's clearly not, the AI isn't intelligent enough to exclude the exclusion list.
I know many on the forum are of the age where they may have kids in college/university or getting close to that age, make sure you let them know my findings on Turnitin if they use it in their course work, 3rd level stuff is stressful enough without being falsely flagged as a cheater/plagiariser. Whatever LLM they're using hasn't used Artificial Intelligence, it's Dumb Extrapolation.
Thank you for attending my TedTalk rant, please exit through the gift shop on your way out