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jamesedwards
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2026 8:13 pm
jamesedwards wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2026 7:24 pm
I'm dipping my toe into AI waters for the first time, using Google AI.

Early results are not encouraging. :lol:


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Bear in mind that Google AI on the web page is Gemini, if you assess it from a phone widget it's OpenAI.
The monopolies commision/competition law stuff meant if people used Google to power their search they weren't forced to use gemini. Google themselves (the site) obv use gemini, others using Google to get search results often do deals with other AI providers like OpenAI to enrich the results.

If you get yourself a free OpenAI (ChatGPT) login you'll find things like the now improved memory persistence gives you a better experience. Gemini is lagging behind in that way imo.

Thanks. I've already migrated to the free version of Chat GPT and at least it hasn't owned up to any hallucinations yet!
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ShaunWhite
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jamesedwards wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2026 8:31 pm
Thanks. I've already migrated to the free version of Chat GPT and at least it hasn't owned up to any hallucinations yet!
The default mode is fast and friendly, but you can get it to always do eg "make no assumptions, validate responses, internally iterate reply before presenting until 'world class', etc by forcing it to commit those instructions to memory.
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weemac
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I've finally sacked GPT Free and removed it from my roster. After all the countless lies, disobedience, arguments and frustrations, it's now claiming a 250 line macro (which it wrote) is too long for it to give me. Second time this has happened.

I've had enough.
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ShaunWhite
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weemac wrote:
Thu Aug 06, 2026 3:31 pm
I've finally sacked GPT Free and removed it from my roster. After all the countless lies, disobedience, arguments and frustrations, it's now claiming a 250 line macro (which it wrote) is too long for it to give me. Second time this has happened.

I've had enough.
😭 I feel your pain. Best practice always used to be that a function/process should fit on one page. Eg your 250 line macro becomes a compact series of calls to code blocks that each do manageable decrete tasks.

The macro becomes just
Do this
Do that
If this.result and that.result are true then do something else

And the actions are bite-sized code blocks that are easy to test/debug.

But yeah we've all ended up with code about 2000 lines long at just rambles like a story. But if it won't fit on one screen, break it up.

I've found the code it writes from scratch to be pretty poor. It's just a series of altered examples from user guides end to end and no real overall design or structure, hence it writing one chunk of code over 250 lines long.

Post all of your/my message above into yours and see what it says, unless it's already fired and out of your office with a bin bag full of stuff from the stationary cupboard. 😂
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