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LeTiss
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Rather than just sending this to support, I thought I'd share it with everyone

I quite often use the bookmaking tab for laying a number of selections, but there's a setting that's currently lacking that I would find very useful.

I will often lay all selections, but to a set liability. I'm not necessarily looking to immediately green up, I will often leave a smallish red on the favourite and green up 'in play'

However, you can't lay all selections to a set liability, which is disappointing

Support - Is this possible to include, or is logistically a bad idea?
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Tuco
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...sounds like a good idea to me ~ similar to my global settings separate back and lay liability boxes.

...so the bookmaking tab could have the additional option "Lay for a liability of"
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Can you give us an exact example of what you are looking for and we will see what we can do.
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Tuco
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I think that Le Tiss is requesting each of the selections would lay to the entered liability and BA would calculate and auto-update the stakes to lay to match the enetered liability.

...so if only 1 selection was selected for a liability of £50 and the lay odds of that selection was 6.0, it would lay £10 @ 6.0 = £50 liability.

...and if 2 selections were selected for an individual liability of £50 and the lay odds of the first selection was 6.0, it would lay £10 @ 6.0 = £50 liability and if the lay odds of the second selection was 11.0, it would lay £5 @ 11.0 = £50 liability.

...and if 3 selections were selected for an individual liability of £50 and the lay odds of the first selection was 6.0, it would lay £10 @ 6.0 = £50 liability and if the lay odds of the second selection was 11.0, it would lay £5 @ 11.0 = £50 liability and if the lay odds of the third selection was 26.0, it would lay £2 @ 26.0 = £50 liability and so on...
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LeTiss
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Sorry, I didn't notice BA's response, but Tuco described it perfectly

That's what I was after BA, entering a set liability on the bookmaking tab, and BA would set the stakes on each selection according to that liability
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mugsgame
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This can be done in the Dutching tab, If you use the radio button that says "Back for a target profit" there is a box at the end that you can override the target profit.

I think what your after is a version of this on the bookmaking tab.

Talking of bookmaking tab - this is my favourite feature on Bet Angel and over the years has made me serious money. I am disappointed to see that it has removed on the Betdaq version. Any reason why support or PW?
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LeTiss 4pm wrote: ..entering a set liability on the bookmaking tab, and BA would set the stakes on each selection according to that liability
Great Idea !

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mugsgame wrote:Talking of bookmaking tab - this is my favourite feature on Bet Angel and over the years has made me serious money. I am disappointed to see that it has removed on the Betdaq version. Any reason why support or PW?
MG i dont wish to pry but is this after you have greened up, because i have found that this does pull in or can with tweeking the prices some serious dosh,but if you forget some selections can damage your bank, I had my charts covering the selections once and forgot to include them and one of them flew in costing me 20% of the bank, oh well happy days
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LeTiss
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BA Admin, you've gone quiet!

What's the chance of adding this to a future release?
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Are you varying liability by selection? Because there is the ability to set stakes by a maximum liability via the autostaking function or the custom columns?
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LeTiss
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Using Auto staking liabilities doesn't work when entering manual prices though does it? It only produces stakes for the current price wanted, and is no good if stakes fall below £2
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Tuco
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Bet Angel wrote:Are you varying liability by selection? Because there is the ability to set stakes by a maximum liability via the autostaking function or the custom columns?
No, liability is the same as that entered, no matter what the selection ~ the lay stakes would vary by selection as each selection has differing lay odds, but the liability on each chosen selection would be the same.

This is a very simple but very useful update ~ surely this request is not too complicated for BA to understand?
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MarketTrader
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I've just read through this and I must have misunderstood.

Tuco says:
...so if only 1 selection was selected for a liability of £50 and the lay odds of that selection was 6.0, it would lay £10 @ 6.0 = £50 liability.

...and if 2 selections were selected for an individual liability of £50 and the lay odds of the first selection was 6.0, it would lay £10 @ 6.0 = £50 liability and if the lay odds of the second selection was 11.0, it would lay £5 @ 11.0 = £50 liability.

...and if 3 selections were selected for an individual liability of £50 and the lay odds of the first selection was 6.0, it would lay £10 @ 6.0 = £50 liability and if the lay odds of the second selection was 11.0, it would lay £5 @ 11.0 = £50 liability and if the lay odds of the third selection was 26.0, it would lay £2 @ 26.0 = £50 liability and so on...
This doesn't sound like you are making a book so the bookmaking tab is probably not the right place.

However, if you set auto staking in the top area to liability and set the amount to £50 then this automatically adjust the lay stakes on each individual runner to give a £50 liability.

Or if you want to automatically place the bets a few ticks away from the current price then you can create a custom column to do this.
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Tuco
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I have already requested that there be SEPERATE auto-stake liabilities which you could enter in the box for backing and laying as you may well want to back to a different liability than you would wish to lay ~ as yet this hasn't been incorporated into the auto-staking box but would be extremely useful when using the ladder in particular.
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