Royal Ascot 2012

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hgodden
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Sure. They must be taking on some pretty big liability at times with that kind of thing though, IMO I can't see a way how they could square things up.

I think whoever does that kind of thing must have some sort of deal with betfair to work as a market maker and not pay commission in the traditional sense or they just couldnt make it work, given the tightness of the spreads.
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JollyGreen
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mugsgame wrote:Ah Frankel............

Officially THE best horse in the world.....ever

BC who are you?





Soory 'bout that. Love winding up the Aussies :D
Gotta admit he was awesome.
Actually he is 1lb inferior to the great Dancing Brave. Still an awesome beast and it is a shame he doesn't run the same distance as Black Caviar.
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Euler
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hgodden wrote:Sure. They must be taking on some pretty big liability at times with that kind of thing though, IMO I can't see a way how they could square things up.

I think whoever does that kind of thing must have some sort of deal with betfair to work as a market maker and not pay commission in the traditional sense or they just couldnt make it work, given the tightness of the spreads.
I can't see how they can make it work, but there are all over the place this week. I went up against them on that one. So we couldn't have both made money you would think.
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He is on Frog Hollow in this race.
hgodden
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Saw it. Same person is often around the 4 and 6 mark.

Interesting how the guy who used to do something similar, albeit a lot more crudely, has disappeared since betfair changed their t+c's about dominating the market (i.e. the bloke who used to just put 15k on both sides on any old race)
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hgodden wrote:betfair changed their t+c's about dominating the market
Missed this change. What exactly did they want to try and stamp out ?

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I missed it also!
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hgodden wrote:Saw it. Same person is often around the 4 and 6 mark.

Interesting how the guy who used to do something similar, albeit a lot more crudely, has disappeared since betfair changed their t+c's about dominating the market (i.e. the bloke who used to just put 15k on both sides on any old race)
and 10s and 3s!
What did they change in their terms to stop someone just stacking money both sides?
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Rewarded - 1700
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Switched to Granduer
hgodden
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I don't have the quote in front of me but it was maybe 6 months to a year ago when they brought in a few new t+c's. I think I remember the phrase being something about stopping behaviour that threatens the 'integrity of the exchange' or something like that which only made me laugh as there's something fishy going on most runners in pretty much every race, if not any monkey could just come along and make money by following the WOM, as apparantly you could at the start of the exchange.

It's probably on the betfair announcements part of the website if anyone is interested. Of course, the person who used to stick 20k on both sides could have just gone broke!
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Pretty broad capture all terms. If they can define entity as anybody you know or may know at some point in the future with no boundries I guess the above can refer to pretty much anything.
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I think it's deliberately vague as just their way of covering themselves so that can get rid of anyone they want (for whatever reason)
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