Grrr greening

[Stanman]

So what happened folks? I was not trading. I backed Aseela in the 3.20 at Yarmouth. I tried to green
up when the trade profit was £30 and ended up with a lay bet... I've just noticed that Force open Lay is showing (I thought it was set at None ) surely this should not have affected the attempt at greening? It is puzzling as Aseela won as I thought it might and certainly did not want to lay it. It seems that the amount I wanted to green as profit turned into a lay bet

[Euler]

What does the log say?

[JollyGreen]

Did you accidentally click twice? This is easily done and something I must admit to have done myself

[Stanman]

Log;

15.18.02 £10.17 lay bet on Aseela at 5.8
15.20.15 Keep bet at in play
15.22.05 cancel bet
15.24.35 Greened up Aseela by laying 42.43 at 3.95
(I was expecting to win 42.43 but lost 75.00!)
Don't think I pressed green twice, but there again..,

[NR169]

I may be stupid but to green up on this selection you would have needed a back and a lay bet. You appear to have just layed the winner.

But as i said I may be stupid.

[JollyGreen]

I cannot see the back order for this horse? The log says you laid it for £10 at 5.8 and changed the status to keep. Then you cancelled it followed by a green order.

If you backed this horse for £10 at 6.0 then your profits would be £50.

If you offered to lay £42.43 at 3.95 then your liability would be 125.17.

£125 - £50 = £75 loss.

Does that seem about right? Obviously I am guessing about the back order based on the £10 cancelled order?

For example if you backed £10 at 5.90 and then laid £10.17 at 5.80 it would show a green of £0.17

[Stanman]

log in full:
20/09/2012 15:15:00: Market changed to Yarm 20th Sep - 15:20 1m Nursery
20/09/2012 15:15:44: £ 10 Back bet placed on Aseela at 5.8. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 22227580544 ( Fill or kill bet with 10 seconds delay. Offsetting by 1 ticks with greening. )
20/09/2012 15:15:54: £ 10 unmatched bet (Ref:22227580544) was killed.
20/09/2012 15:16:03: £ 10 Back bet placed on Aseela at 5.8. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 22227586822 ( Fill or kill bet with 10 seconds delay. Offsetting by 1 ticks with greening. )
20/09/2012 15:16:06: £ 10 of unmatched bet (Ref:22227586822) was filled before remainder was killed.
20/09/2012 15:16:07: £ 10.18 Lay bet placed on Aseela at 5.7. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 22227588342
20/09/2012 15:17:51: £ 10 Back bet placed on Romanoff at 5.3. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 22227627083 ( Fill or kill bet with 10 seconds delay. Offsetting by 1 ticks with greening. )
20/09/2012 15:17:55: £ 10 unmatched bet (Ref:22227627083) was killed.
20/09/2012 15:17:58: £ 10 Back bet placed on Aseela at 5.9. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 22227629450 ( Fill or kill bet with 10 seconds delay. Offsetting by 1 ticks with greening. )
20/09/2012 15:18:02: £ 10 of unmatched bet (Ref:22227629450) was filled before remainder was killed.
20/09/2012 15:18:02: £ 10.17 Lay bet placed on Aseela at 5.8. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 22227630624
20/09/2012 15:20:45: Modify bet persistence 22227630624 from 'Cancel' to 'Keep'

20/09/2012 15:22:05: Cancelling bets 22227630624
20/09/2012 15:23:03: Market has been suspended
20/09/2012 15:23:04: Market is in-play
20/09/2012 15:23:04: Market has been unsuspended
20/09/2012 15:24:35: Greened up Aseela by Laying 42.43 at 3.95
20/09/2012 15:24:43: Market has been suspended
The trade profit was showing £30+ green when I pressed
expecting a profit, not to place a bet!

[Stanman]

To clarify (hopefully)

Aseela was showing £49.00 green, the rest £9.87 red.
If I hadn't pressed green, I would have won £49.00. By greening early I was hoping to take a profit in case Aseela did not win. I often do this but ain't had a result like this!

[Stanman]

I think my fat fingers pressed greening twice - would this explain it?

[JollyGreen]

I think my fat fingers pressed greening twice - would this explain it?

That would explain it yes! I showed some approx figures earlier in the thread and they seemed to make sense.

[Stanman]

Thanks for that Jolls.
The irony is that I had £76 in the bank - if it had been £2 less presumably the bet would not have fired!

[JollyGreen]

Thanks for that Jolls.
The irony is that I had £76 in the bank - if it had been £2 less presumably the bet would not have fired!

Sadly you are correct, there would have been insufficient funds to place the bet