It was a runner in terms of betting and some people will not have picturessteven1976 wrote:Why was it still trading in play? It wasnt even running. I got a screen shot of it but not got photoshop on this comp to cut it. Almost all the race there was money matching between 300-500. I know it was tiny amounts but was strange. Usually when a horse is out of the race there will be 200+ sat at 1000
Today's Horse Racing
-
JollyGreen
- Posts: 2047
- Joined: Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:06 am
-
steven1976
- Posts: 1744
- Joined: Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:28 am
What changes when a horse falls? They still wouldnt have pics. Ah ok with you.
Not complaining as i laid it around 1.2. Just found it strange that when a horse falls there is 200+ at 1000 and this one kept jumping between 300 and 500.
Not complaining as i laid it around 1.2. Just found it strange that when a horse falls there is 200+ at 1000 and this one kept jumping between 300 and 500.
-
JollyGreen
- Posts: 2047
- Joined: Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:06 am
If you listen to Fitzgerald on ATR - if it doesn't do your head in - because he can talk sh!t for Britain, he did say the fall in the Grand National could have upset him and he may not race. Then when he didn't race he says it is all wrong and he should be a non-runner!
Well I say the rule should stay the same or trainers would not do any work on their dodge pots and send them racing. If they don't start then nothing would change for them (expenses of getting them to the course) and the cycle would continue. That horse Golan Way should now be reported and be made to undergo a starting test. Until such time he can prove he will start he should not be allowed to race. If he passes the test with the BHB and subsequently refuses then he should be banned from racing for a set period until he passes another test. This would soon stop the lame attitude that some trainers have towards their recalcitrant horses.
Well I say the rule should stay the same or trainers would not do any work on their dodge pots and send them racing. If they don't start then nothing would change for them (expenses of getting them to the course) and the cycle would continue. That horse Golan Way should now be reported and be made to undergo a starting test. Until such time he can prove he will start he should not be allowed to race. If he passes the test with the BHB and subsequently refuses then he should be banned from racing for a set period until he passes another test. This would soon stop the lame attitude that some trainers have towards their recalcitrant horses.
-
steven1976
- Posts: 1744
- Joined: Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:28 am
His form is a bit dodge according to the link peter posted. Seems to pull up a few times or refuse, especially for them odds that werw on offer today.
Out of interest jg, why does the trainer get the blame for things like this? Surely its more likely to be the jockey who is whispering to the horse not to run at the off?
Out of interest jg, why does the trainer get the blame for things like this? Surely its more likely to be the jockey who is whispering to the horse not to run at the off?
-
JollyGreen
- Posts: 2047
- Joined: Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:06 am
The trainer is responsible for the running of the horse, i.e. how it jumps, starts, runs, what ground/distance etc. They know the dodge pots but they'll keep doing nothing so long as it doesn't affect them. If a horse is a dodgy lining up and often refuses to race then surely they have to inform the owner that he is not a race horse and perhaps a hunting hack instead.
If they were banned and/or fined they would soon sort it out!
If they were banned and/or fined they would soon sort it out!
-
steven1976
- Posts: 1744
- Joined: Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:28 am
This was the chart. I realise only small amounts were being matched after the off but just found it surprising that it wasnt pushed out much higher, quicker like when a horse takes a dive.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
-
steven1976
- Posts: 1744
- Joined: Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:28 am
So why when a horse falls does it go to a 1000? Im just trying to understand why when a horse falls it goes out to 1000 and usually with a reasonable amount of money sat on the lay side.
When someone falls off a horse they can get back on and ride it so just wondering why the market didnt react like a fallen horse. Someone can still get back on that horse and ride it as i understand.
Just curious.
When someone falls off a horse they can get back on and ride it so just wondering why the market didnt react like a fallen horse. Someone can still get back on that horse and ride it as i understand.
Just curious.
I might be wrong but I think that rule has changed now. Even if the old rule was in place, it's probably much less than 1000/1 that a jocky will remount and win the race, and the layers at those odds might get some business from bots etc hedging
-
JollyGreen
- Posts: 2047
- Joined: Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:06 am
No remount is allowed in UK horse racing. The money is sat at 1000 to catch bots and/or people who are greening up or balancing their book with amounts below the minimum stake. Because it will first place the £2 at 1000 this will be matched so someone will pick up a free £2...or whatever the minimum is in the appropriate currency.hgodden wrote:I might be wrong but I think that rule has changed now. Even if the old rule was in place, it's probably much less than 1000/1 that a jocky will remount and win the race, and the layers at those odds might get some business from bots etc hedging