US Presidential Election 2024
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The USA has never been that warm to the UK. They still think we owe them for coming to our aid over WW2 and the interest free money they gave us to rebuild, even though we paid it back.Emmson wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2024 4:16 pmAnother unpalatable fact is Democrats don't treat UK fairly, there is alot of Anglophobia there. I despise Trump but him and his party and not as hostile to us as Dems.
I'm starting to think its best all round if Trump wins especially if he can be turned on the Ukraine issue.
Obama told the UK it was last in the queue for a trade deal and Trump never implemented one either. Nor did Clinton or Bush.
The only one who behind the scenes sided with the UK was Reagan over the Falklands war. He allowed our fighter jets to refuel and rearm on US aircraft carriers, which only came to light long after that war ended. The whole time he dismissed it when questioned by Argentina. But that could be because some think that the special relationship between him and Mrs ‘T’ was a bit more than just special.
Trump could be turned on Ukraine but I suspect he will tell NATO and the EU to get their chequebooks out and for each member to commit to a minimum of 3%.
One thing about Trump though, Russia would not have invaded Ukraine, China wouldn’t be annoying Taiwan, Hamas wouldn’t have done what they did and North Korea wouldn’t by such a numpty. Why ?, because Trump is unpredictable and won’t take shit.
Not saying Trump is great but Obama was weak over the Syrian war with multiple red lines crossed and did nothing. Joe is also weak hence all the world rubbish going on under his watch. The world sees him as very weak and they can push the boundaries where we want.
The world is becoming more dangerous each day, you need a strong leader to keep the imbalance in check.
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O dear, it seems everything is aligning to restore Trump back to the White House.
Federal prosecutors overreached when using an obstruction law to charge hundreds of January 6 rioters, the Supreme Court has ruled in an opinion that could also affect a case against Donald Trump.
It’s going to be an interesting year….
Federal prosecutors overreached when using an obstruction law to charge hundreds of January 6 rioters, the Supreme Court has ruled in an opinion that could also affect a case against Donald Trump.
It’s going to be an interesting year….
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Biden says he is staying and looking forward to the election. Under US rules, nobody can remove him unless he loses the election.
My god, looks like it’s going to be painful all round.

My god, looks like it’s going to be painful all round.
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Just looking loyal.
If Joe mucks the next/final TV debate then the democrats will be toast. Even if Joe was to win the presidency there is no way he going to last another 4 years. Two doctors were asked to give their opinion and both said it looks like he has Parkinson’s.
Hopefully, people will think a vote for Biden is a vote for Newsom. He won't last another year never mind four.Archery1969 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2024 9:07 amJust looking loyal.
If Joe mucks the next/final TV debate then the democrats will be toast. Even if Joe was to win the presidency there is no way he going to last another 4 years. Two doctors were asked to give their opinion and both said it looks like he has Parkinson’s.
It's worth remembering, Ronald Reagan showed his age in a debate against Walter Mondale by stammering and struggling to remember what he had to say, but turned it around in the next debate with his joke about Mondale's youth and inexperience, 1984 I think. Might be pushing it but hopefully Biden will do the same. 

Well Biden was much more energetic afterwards, so you’d think he’d be better.Derek27 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:42 amIt's worth remembering, Ronald Reagan showed his age in a debate against Walter Mondale by stammering and struggling to remember what he had to say, but turned it around in the next debate with his joke about Mondale's youth and inexperience, 1984 I think. Might be pushing it but hopefully Biden will do the same.![]()
All this talk about him being replaced is down to Biden himself, and he’s so stubborn he won’t, and should he? Would Newsom win? Michelle Obama probably would but she doesn’t want anything to do with politics now and that would mean skipping over Harris which wouldn’t go well either. Dems are stuck as the GOP are with Trump.
Just imagine Haley v Biden or Shapiro v Trump, would be a demolition job.
When you saw Biden full of energy at the rally, it just shows what a difference a quiet studio is to having a crowd spurring you on. Everybody thought that would hinder Trump rather than Biden.Naffman wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:07 amWell Biden was much more energetic afterwards, so you’d think he’d be better.Derek27 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:42 amIt's worth remembering, Ronald Reagan showed his age in a debate against Walter Mondale by stammering and struggling to remember what he had to say, but turned it around in the next debate with his joke about Mondale's youth and inexperience, 1984 I think. Might be pushing it but hopefully Biden will do the same.![]()
All this talk about him being replaced is down to Biden himself, and he’s so stubborn he won’t, and should he? Would Newsom win? Michelle Obama probably would but she doesn’t want anything to do with politics now and that would mean skipping over Harris which wouldn’t go well either. Dems are stuck as the GOP are with Trump.
Just imagine Haley v Biden or Shapiro v Trump, would be a demolition job.
Having Michelle in the Whitehouse would also mean Barack would be in there, and he'd effectively be running the country. A pretty good situation if you're a Barack fan, but as you say, she wants nothing to do with it.
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I imagine Biden will go downhill rapidly when his son is sent to prison. He could of course pardon him but that wouldn’t go down well with some voters. But maybe he could have the secret service protect while he serves his time by executive order. 
If he pardons his son, it will be after he lost the election but before exiting from office.Archery1969 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2024 2:24 pmI imagine Biden will go downhill rapidly when his son is sent to prison. He could of course pardon him but that wouldn’t go down well with some voters. But maybe he could have the secret service protect while he serves his time by executive order.![]()
If he wins, he just needs to pardon him before a major event, like nuclear war breaking out. Then it will quickly be forgotten.

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Supreme Court rules that Trump is partially immune from prosecution.
He is immune from prosecution for official acts while president but not unofficial ones. It would be upto a lower court to rule on what’s classed as official or unofficial but any decisions by the lower court can be referred back to the Supreme Court as and when.
He is immune from prosecution for official acts while president but not unofficial ones. It would be upto a lower court to rule on what’s classed as official or unofficial but any decisions by the lower court can be referred back to the Supreme Court as and when.