Dallas : How can you track wins/losses of a strategy

[ShaunWhite]

One final point on my commenting on Dallas :: every time I asked for his help - he was respectful - friendly and answered the question with an answer that made sense and worked

He's paid to do that, you got the full girlfriend experience.

[NotBothered]

derek shaun - Jim

I do not know any of you guys - and for people with 2000 3000 posts - you would think that you would not be so quick to dismiss every who has an opinion as irrelevant.


You guys get its a forum right ? where people discuss and ask things and that just bullying people is not respectful to anyone... it has really left a bad taste in my mouth - to the point where if someone like me - who bets every day - runs tonnes of strategy on all the software packages -- is not comfortable with the constant Bullying that goes on around here -- just packs up and leaves -- it is your loss to be fair.

Again I show some appreciation for Dallas - and you guys are bagging that ? it really is uncalled for.

[jimibt]

derek shaun - Jim

I do not know any of you guys - and for people with 2000 3000 posts - you would think that you would not be so quick to dismiss every who has an opinion as irrelevant.


You guys get its a forum right ? where people discuss and ask things and that just bullying people is not respectful to anyone...

my interest in terms of respect got piqued here:

Your resume is of a low level financial employee - that is easily replaceable at a moments notice - that skill set is vanilla.

just saying...

[NotBothered]

Whether Dallas is paid or not ( I am taking your word he is ) ... the guy makes an effort - and does not bag someone who may not know as much as him .. and he finds no need to bully people who have some sort of opinion.

Anyway I said it already -- this is 2022 - times have changed - as far as I am concerned - it probably does not matter to any of you guys - but I am really on my last straw for even bothering posting here.

Bullying and putting people down - who you perceive as not knowing as much as you is 2002 not 2022.

If you want a forum with just you guys in it and no-one else then just think about some of the things your posting.

[NotBothered]

Jim,

Shaun came in all high and mighty - trying to talk over me - acting like his CV and experience was just so far ahead of me - that my opinion means nothing.

The fact is - my financial background is of the very highest levels - so someone trying to intimidate me - just makes no sense.

You take my personal experience of working in dealing rooms - we used to treat people horribly - especially women - a lot of people never got an opportunity and we discarded people every week who could not cut it.

These days it is a new world and you need to support and encourage people - and give them a fair chance --- times have changed a lot and even my views on things have changed -- so I am not going to have someone speak to me like that -- those days are over

this is not news to you I am sure.

[NotBothered]

what I do not get is - if you have questions/ideas/thoughts/processes/short cuts

why are you not posting this kind of post ?

I am not the largest person on Betfair - as is always the case .. there is always someone bigger.

Same in trading - I worked for 20 years to get into the Top 10 Institutional Traders + it just dominated my life so much I decided to retire at 43

You gotta put things into perspective.

So yeah if you guys want to keep up this Bullying -- because it makes you feel better - great - you can just speak to yourselves.

[Derek27]

derek shaun - Jim

I do not know any of you guys - and for people with 2000 3000 posts - you would think that you would not be so quick to dismiss every who has an opinion as irrelevant.


You guys get its a forum right ? where people discuss and ask things and that just bullying people is not respectful to anyone... it has really left a bad taste in my mouth - to the point where if someone like me - who bets every day - runs tonnes of strategy on all the software packages -- is not comfortable with the constant Bullying that goes on around here -- just packs up and leaves -- it is your loss to be fair.

Again I show some appreciation for Dallas - and you guys are bagging that ? it really is uncalled for.

I've posted four times to this thread. The first, I was innocently laughing at somebody's joke. The second, I simply said that I didn't understand why you need help when you're making $1000 a day. That's more than many. The third was a suggestion that you could PM Dallas if you only want to talk to him. That's a very valid suggestion. The fourth, and I quote:

besides - as long as I am interested in this - this thread will become one of the most valuable on the forum

You probably don't get what's funny about that quote, but when a new poster appears and assumes a higher status and starts patronizing a highly respected and well-established poster like Shaun who's helped countless newbies, it does come across as conceited and arrogant.

Dick-swinging, bragging about how good you are, and telling people they can easily be replaced in their job, even if it were true, will never go down well in any environment.

[Derek27]

Shaun came in all high and mighty - trying to talk over me - acting like his CV and experience was just so far ahead of me - that my opinion means nothing.

Can you actually quote the offending post?

The fact is - my financial background is of the very highest levels - so someone trying to intimidate me - just makes no sense.

People will judge you on what you post here, not on your claimed past.

...we used to treat people horribly

Used to?

[NotBothered]

derek

here is the thing and I posted this already

Shaun came in trying to walk all over me with his CV talk and his experience .. like I said to him at the time - just drop it .. we are never going to agree - best just write your own thread .. that level of experience is very low - so lets just go our different ways... and not get negative.

now you take that out of the context it was written in.

Personally I thought 1,000 a day was fairly standard here and this is just a small idea to take some simple things available on the forum and use them to make profits from... plus I was going to use some of the other things and build those up as well.

So to me this is normal - I had no idea that this seems like a "swinging dick" as you like to term it.

I apologize for that - I actually was trying to actually start a thread to talk about solutions/avenues and show people you can take simple things and turn them into something useful.
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[Derek27]

what I do not get is - if you have questions/ideas/thoughts/processes/short cuts

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So yeah if you guys want to keep up this Bullying -- because it makes you feel better - great - you can just speak to yourselves.

I think you're oblivious to every post on the forum except your own. This forum is absolutely packed with the above. If you think people are bullying you you are delusional. By your own admission, you're not very good at explaining yourself (especially for a former governor of the Bank of England) so it was inevitable that people would struggle to understand and question what you're saying. That's normal for a forum.

Also, you're initial posts about dealing with winning and losing runs sounded very amateurish and that's what you get judged on. Attaching your CV doesn't change that.

[Derek27]

Shaun came in trying to walk all over me with his CV talk and his experience

Can you actually quote the post (press the " button) where he "tried to walk all over you"?

Admittedly I speed-read this thread, but if you actually quote what you feel offended by perhaps people will understand.

[NotBothered]

Just to be clear.

My attitudes have changed to dealing with people - before I would dismiss people instantly and not give them the time of day... now I listen and respond -- which is why I said to Shaun -- lets just go our different ways - we are never going to agree .. which to me makes perfect sense and it never leads to where we are now.

But if you do not see the Bullying going on then not only do I have to be more careful with my words - but you should also give some thought as to how you come across in your posts.

As far as to how I build things - that is my strategy and how I do things - I do not expect every single person to be doing it my way - their experience is different to mine - so its natural we approach things a different way.

Like I said - I am prepared to apologize for any of my actions that may have been taken the wrong way - to yourself or even Shaun -- but please keep in mind I am not the type of person who is going to accept bullying of myself or anyone else for that matter... it is a forum people should be free to post their opinions/ideas or questions without the heckling.

[Kai]

Satire aside...

Not sure how you've not worked out that Dallas is part of the staff but Shaun for example doesn't get paid to assist new posters, and yet you've bullied him off the thread just for trying to help. Yes, it does suck when the shoe is on the other foot but you've said it yourself, why instantly dismiss others, there's more to treating people purely based off the value they offer you.

Maybe he misjudged your level of expertise at first since he usually deals with newbies, and maybe you misjudged his intentions but that whole interaction definitely left a bad taste overall, and that was before you took several potshots at the forum as a whole. We all understand how easy it is to step on somebody's ego in this industry and how important it is to have a bit of an ego in the first place, but surely you must feel this overwhelming irony in your posts.

[Derek27]

Just to be clear.

My attitudes have changed to dealing with people - before I would dismiss people instantly and not give them the time of day... now I listen and respond -- which is why I said to Shaun -- lets just go our different ways - we are never going to agree .. which to me makes perfect sense and it never leads to where we are now.

But if you do not see the Bullying going on then not only do I have to be more careful with my words - but you should also give some thought as to how you come across in your posts.

As far as to how I build things - that is my strategy and how I do things - I do not expect every single person to be doing it my way - their experience is different to mine - so its natural we approach things a different way.

Like I said - I am prepared to apologize for any of my actions that may have been taken the wrong way - to yourself or even Shaun -- but please keep in mind I am not the type of person who is going to accept bullying of myself or anyone else for that matter... it is a forum people should be free to post their opinions/ideas or questions without the heckling.

Just to be clear, you still haven't quoted the offending post. Bullying needs to be called out and exposed, so instead of accusing people of bullying, just point out the offending sentence(s).

[NotBothered]

Also the reason I sometimes struggle to explain things is I have already built the infrastructure to handle - a large number of strategies and support them on a daily basis

so I have the knowledge of how everything works and the background behind it -- so if I talk about one small part of it - it can seem not clear - because you are not considering everything else behind it

which can make it confusing .. oh that does not make sense I do not get it / ? while at the same time it makes perfect sense to me - because I see the flow of information into the strategy.


Honestly I would prefer to leave it there for now - I am just not really into this whole back and forth all the time..

cheers for now.