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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... itain.html ... imagine the uproar from the hypocritical Luvvies and other anti-Conservatives if a Conservative Chancellor (or other Minister/MP) had falsified their CV as she has clearly done. Are we happy to have a deceitful liar as Chancellor representing us around the financial world?
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2025 6:56 am
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... itain.html ... imagine the uproar from the hypocritical Luvvies and other anti-Conservatives if a Conservative Chancellor (or other Minister/MP) had falsified their CV as she has clearly done. Are we happy to have a deceitful liar as Chancellor representing us around the financial world?
Defo not limited to the Conservatives but seems a remarkably high incidence of falsifying CV's amongst politicians. I can't see why it shouldn't be a breach of the ministerial code and being sacked an option.

We had a local candidate (SNP) with a CV of:

- went to uni studying law / business
- small business owner
- went on a world tour meeting other small business owners etc

Actual CV should have read

- dropped out of uni in 1st year
- worked as a waitress in Mums cafe
- took a gap year on Mums expense travelling the world partying....
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sionascaig wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2025 8:06 am
firlandsfarm wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2025 6:56 am
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... itain.html ... imagine the uproar from the hypocritical Luvvies and other anti-Conservatives if a Conservative Chancellor (or other Minister/MP) had falsified their CV as she has clearly done. Are we happy to have a deceitful liar as Chancellor representing us around the financial world?
Defo not limited to the Conservatives but seems a remarkably high incidence of falsifying CV's amongst politicians. I can't see why it shouldn't be a breach of the ministerial code and being sacked an option.

We had a local candidate (SNP) with a CV of:

- went to uni studying law / business
- small business owner
- went on a world tour meeting other small business owners etc

Actual CV should have read

- dropped out of uni in 1st year
- worked as a waitress in Mums cafe
- took a gap year on Mums expense travelling the world partying....
I asked Google "are errors in a CV criminal?" and it responded "Yes, depending on the severity and intent, significant errors or deliberate lies on a CV can be considered a criminal offense, classified as "fraud by false representation" under the Fraud Act 2006, meaning that intentionally misleading information on a CV could lead to legal repercussions, including potential criminal charges." So is it reasonable to assume she made so many 'innocent mistakes' and if she did would her lack of attention to detail preclude her from being Chancellor!
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sionascaig wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:17 pm
Michael5482 wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2025 4:02 pm

A shame Christopher Hitchens is no longer with us, he had Islam's number 20 years ago. People are waking up to what it is and why it's dangerous, it has no place in Western society.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6cpNhMx_AE
He wasn't particularly keen on Christians either....

“With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion.”

― Steven Weinberg
I'd have a guess and say he was an atheist but he had a particular issue with Isalm including why it's an issue with free speech (see Charlie Hebdo)

Anyway here he is destroying a Rabbi to pieces https://youtu.be/Xx_ov2NiNo4?t=204
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2025 8:15 am

I asked Google "are errors in a CV criminal?" and it responded "Yes, depending on the severity and intent, significant errors or deliberate lies on a CV can be considered a criminal offense, classified as "fraud by false representation" under the Fraud Act 2006, meaning that intentionally misleading information on a CV could lead to legal repercussions, including potential criminal charges." So is it reasonable to assume she made so many 'innocent mistakes' and if she did would her lack of attention to detail preclude her from being Chancellor!
She (particularly as a politician), if found out has misled on a CV, should

1. Go back to the electorate that put her in Westminster and explain situation
2. If a minister, be subject to an ethics enquiry as for all we know the CV was at least partially relied on for the promotion into government.

What a can of worms that would open up !

I see no reason if her constituents are not happy with explanation in 1) then should be subject to a recall petition. And sacked under 2) pending outcome of enquiry.
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Michael5482 wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2025 8:23 am

I'd have a guess and say he was an atheist but he had a particular issue with Isalm including why it's an issue with free speech (see Charlie Hebdo)

Anyway here he is destroying a Rabbi to pieces https://youtu.be/Xx_ov2NiNo4?t=204
Yeah, was just thinking about that one!

His debating abilities are off the scale & even if you disagree with his positions he at least makes you think & question own beliefs.

What a loss...

His brother Peter (Hitchens), also worth a look. Very compelling at presenting arguments (although he is not an atheist).
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sionascaig wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2025 8:31 am
She (particularly as a politician), if found out has misled on a CV, should

1. Go back to the electorate that put her in Westminster and explain situation
2. If a minister, be subject to an ethics enquiry as for all we know the CV was at least partially relied on for the promotion into government.

What a can of worms that would open up !

I see no reason if her constituents are not happy with explanation in 1) then should be subject to a recall petition. And sacked under 2) pending outcome of enquiry.
It's made me think that for parliamentary positions from MP upwards there should be a vetting of a person's CV.
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2025 8:48 am
sionascaig wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2025 8:31 am
She (particularly as a politician), if found out has misled on a CV, should

1. Go back to the electorate that put her in Westminster and explain situation
2. If a minister, be subject to an ethics enquiry as for all we know the CV was at least partially relied on for the promotion into government.

What a can of worms that would open up !

I see no reason if her constituents are not happy with explanation in 1) then should be subject to a recall petition. And sacked under 2) pending outcome of enquiry.
It's made me think that for parliamentary positions from MP upwards there should be a vetting of a person's CV.
This is a non story most exaggerate on their CV's at a guess. Real issue is how simple it is to get elected basically get on the back of a political party win the most votes in a certain area and you're into Parliament or Cabinet if you're in with the leader no CV required. We even had 4 MP's elected on a pro-Palestine ticket that should be more concerting than a CV.

The other issue is Starmer get's rid of Reeve's Labour are devoid of business experience who are they going to replace her with? How can a political party have a front bench with next to no business experience and be allowed to be let loose with the country's economy it's absolutely mental.

It highlights why the country is where it is. For the past 20 years or so we've ended up with 3rd rate punks for MP's, don't get me wrong we've had a few good ones but they are few and far between.
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sionascaig wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2025 8:36 am
Michael5482 wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2025 8:23 am

I'd have a guess and say he was an atheist but he had a particular issue with Isalm including why it's an issue with free speech (see Charlie Hebdo)

Anyway here he is destroying a Rabbi to pieces https://youtu.be/Xx_ov2NiNo4?t=204
Yeah, was just thinking about that one!

His debating abilities are off the scale & even if you disagree with his positions he at least makes you think & question own beliefs.

What a loss...

His brother Peter (Hitchens), also worth a look. Very compelling at presenting arguments (although he is not an atheist).
I prefer Douglas Murray possibly because he does more Youtube and Podcasts but yes I'll watch Peter if he's on something but most of his work is tabloid and don't bother with news papers anymore tbh


Stephen Fry, Douglas Murray, Richard Dawkins and Lawrence Krauss did a podcast on Christopher Hitchens life in December last year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogx7DdXIcIM
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2025 8:48 am
sionascaig wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2025 8:31 am
She (particularly as a politician), if found out has misled on a CV, should

1. Go back to the electorate that put her in Westminster and explain situation
2. If a minister, be subject to an ethics enquiry as for all we know the CV was at least partially relied on for the promotion into government.

What a can of worms that would open up !

I see no reason if her constituents are not happy with explanation in 1) then should be subject to a recall petition. And sacked under 2) pending outcome of enquiry.
It's made me think that for parliamentary positions from MP upwards there should be a vetting of a person's CV.
Surely that should apply to everyone's CV.

You should get a job based purely on ability rather than diversity no matter what the job

Donald Trump is a 100% correct in calling it out 👍

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpvmdm1m7m9o
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This week Norway became a cautionary tale of what can happen to a Left-wing government that blindly pursues green energy policies and alienates its wealth generators, with its government collapsing after weeks of vicious infighting.

We can only hope 🤞
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ForFolksSake wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2025 11:24 am
This week Norway became a cautionary tale of what can happen to a Left-wing government that blindly pursues green energy policies and alienates its wealth generators, with its government collapsing after weeks of vicious infighting.

We can only hope 🤞
Norway Sovereign Fund
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We can only hope...
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sionascaig wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2025 11:28 am
ForFolksSake wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2025 11:24 am
This week Norway became a cautionary tale of what can happen to a Left-wing government that blindly pursues green energy policies and alienates its wealth generators, with its government collapsing after weeks of vicious infighting.

We can only hope 🤞
Norway Sovereign Fund

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We can only hope...
Good point
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ForFolksSake wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2025 11:38 am

Good point
Its interesting that their holding in "green" investments is almost zero though - maybe that is why returns been great )
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sionascaig wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2025 11:40 am
ForFolksSake wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2025 11:38 am

Good point
Its interesting that their holding in "green" investments is almost zero though - maybe that is why returns been great )
Foreign direct investment

In 2023, Norway invested £7 billion in the UK, while the UK invested £6.1 billion in Norway

Norway's sovereign wealth fund, Norges Bank Investment Management, has invested in the UK

Renewable energy projects

Statkraft, a Norwegian company, has invested £1.4 billion in renewable energy infrastructure in the UK

In June 2024, Norges Bank Investment Management bought a 37.5% stake in Race Bank, an offshore wind farm in Britain

Grid stability schemes

Statkraft has invested in grid stability schemes in the UK, including the Swansea Greener Grid Park

These schemes use low carbon technology to improve grid stability and reduce the need for fossil fuel power plants
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