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darchas
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goat68 wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:34 pm
Spot on, I am getting better at the former things, but i'm struggling to find "having a strategy that makes money in the first place", but I sort of expect that otherwise we'd all be rich. Anyway, i'm hoping my trial and error automation might eventually get somewhere...........
Absolutely - you've been through the mill goat and it seems to me like you're starting to round that corner that I talked about. Take away the pressure of trying to make money. Aim to break even - such an important first step and for me it was really liberating when I made that my aim. I could focus then on what I was doing and experiment and tweak away to my heart's content. This is the bit that seperates out the real traders from those that just want to make money. It's a delicate topic because of course we all want to make money - but some are in it to learn how to trade and some just to make money. It's a weird topic as the measure of success is making money, but for me the best way to approach it all is for the actual money results to be secondary. Best analogy for me is poker just because that's my background - short term variance there is so extreme that you really have to put results out of your mind and focus on the process. Although the variance in trading is a lot less volatile (in most cases), I do think it's a helpful mindset.
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darchas wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:29 pm
Simple! Can't believe noone else has ever thought of that before!
Nivi7 thought of it. Problem was he soon stopped talking about trading and started abusing other forum members and demanding sexy photos of mothers. :)

I'm still waiting for ST's results for today. He can even lose and still be ahead of his day 3 £66.55 mark.
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goat68 wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:20 pm
Trader724 wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:15 pm
goat68 wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 6:44 pm
Today's result: -£2.54 (-1.3%)
mmm, not good
This is not how it works, depending on what you have chosen to do, chances are that your strategy will work better in some conditions and worse in others, but in order to have an idea of ​​what those conditions are, you have to give it enough time. Then you will know what is the average profit, average loss and strike rate and from there you have to look for solutions to improve one of them without negatively influencing the other. You need a large number of trades for your results to have statistical significance, you can not draw conclusions after a few trades.
I understand, Linus said the same the other day. I was just saying "today" was not good!
I am happy I have my automation ruleset as per my "model", I fixed a few bugs I noticed today. So I am going to let it run for a while now as-is.
The ruleset has 2 strategies in it which target 2 different conditions.
Try not to care what happens over o day or a week.
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Derek27 wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:43 pm
Problem was he soon stopped talking about trading and started abusing other forum members and demanding sexy photos of mothers. :)
I'm gathering from your tone that this isn't a successful strat - I may have to revisit the drawing board :D
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goat68 wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:36 pm
You know what's just seems absolutely amazing, here's us lot just trying to "breakeven", yet Peter churns out 4 figure days, that is such a HUGE gap it doesn't seem possible?!
Damn Peter's been rumbled!

Looks like I'll have to spend my days in some other forum pretending to know what I'm talking about!

Maybe I'll go to mumsnet and introduce myself as Susan, a successful mother of 3 with 2 Michelin stars in the kitchen and an R rating in the bedroom

So long!
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Trader Pat wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:05 pm
goat68 wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:36 pm
You know what's just seems absolutely amazing, here's us lot just trying to "breakeven", yet Peter churns out 4 figure days, that is such a HUGE gap it doesn't seem possible?!
Damn Peter's been rumbled!

Looks like I'll have to spend my days in some other forum pretending to know what I'm talking about!

Maybe I'll go to mumsnet and introduce myself as Susan, a successful mother of 3 with 2 Michelin stars in the kitchen and an R rating in the bedroom

So long!
:lol:
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darchas
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Trader Pat wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:05 pm
goat68 wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:36 pm
You know what's just seems absolutely amazing, here's us lot just trying to "breakeven", yet Peter churns out 4 figure days, that is such a HUGE gap it doesn't seem possible?!
Damn Peter's been rumbled!

Looks like I'll have to spend my days in some other forum pretending to know what I'm talking about!

Maybe I'll go to mumsnet and introduce myself as Susan, a successful mother of 3 with 2 Michelin stars in the kitchen and an R rating in the bedroom

So long!
Tell me more about those Michelin stars!!! :lol:
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jimibt
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i presume bank holiday meant no smarttraderr trades :(

looking fwd to seeing how this pans/fans out.
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LeTiss
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How are you going to account for Premium Charge?
What are you going to do when you have a poor day....chase it?
Do you expect to still make the same % as your bank rises - making 10% of £50 is much easier than 10% of £5000?
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darchas wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:25 pm
Tell me more about those Michelin stars!!! :lol:
Sorry that's strictly confidential! :D
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jimibt wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:33 pm
i presume bank holiday meant no smarttraderr trades :(
smarttraderr wrote:
Fri Dec 25, 2020 12:23 am
At anytime if you blow-up your bank, you can start your challenge again.
Please pay attention to the rules jimibt





Sorry everyone - only joking! :lol:
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jimibt wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:33 pm
i presume bank holiday meant no smarttraderr trades :(

looking fwd to seeing how this pans/fans out.
I was genuinely looking forward to Smart Traders results, win or lose. Perhaps he's smarter than we think and scratches public holidays !!!
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End of Day 3 - Report
Starting Balance - £85.33
Closing Balance - £111.82
Planned Target - 10%
Actual Return - 31%
Sorry had busy day so just got chance to update.
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smarttraderr wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:36 pm
End of Day 3 - Report
Starting Balance - £85.33
Closing Balance - £111.82
Planned Target - 10%
Actual Return - 31%
Sorry had busy day so just got chance to update.

Day3.png
Well done. :)
rik
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just reloaded my bank, one more try, aim for lower percentage!
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