US Presidential Election 2020

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firlandsfarm
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Derek27 wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:33 pm
I've heard so much crap from the Republicans from zombies leaving their graves to vote
I'm not a zombie (yet) but I am a postal voter (in the UK) and all this concern about postal voting has made me give postal voting a little thought. I'm happy that I am not fraudulent but what about after I die (or move away). A postal voting ballot slip is posted to my current address, is completed and posted back and if they are not told I have died or moved away whoever gets hold of that postal ballot voting slip can make my vote in addition to their own! OK, it will be picked up eventually but how long does 'eventually' take? It's a bit like the students (actually anyone with access to two addresses) being on two voter lists. Maybe the process of postal voting does need to be reconsidered and made more fraud proof. A national register perhaps?
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:30 am
Derek27 wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:33 pm
I've heard so much crap from the Republicans from zombies leaving their graves to vote
I'm not a zombie (yet) but I am a postal voter (in the UK) and all this concern about postal voting has made me give postal voting a little thought. I'm happy that I am not fraudulent but what about after I die (or move away). A postal voting ballot slip is posted to my current address, is completed and posted back and if they are not told I have died or moved away whoever gets hold of that postal ballot voting slip can make my vote in addition to their own! OK, it will be picked up eventually but how long does 'eventually' take? It's a bit like the students (actually anyone with access to two addresses) being on two voter lists. Maybe the process of postal voting does need to be reconsidered and made more fraud proof. A national register perhaps?
Surely there can't be thousands of such cases and it shouldn't be difficult to not send ballot papers to people who are dead. Let's face it, you can't die without a death certificate. ;)

I know there are other complications that I'm not aware of but voting with your NI number, having it logged onto a central database with a list of egible voters would instantly detect a dead person voting or somebody voting twice.
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why popular vote winner is 1.01/1.02 65 to back, even recount hard to see them adding 4 million votes worst realistically could happen is a void market if there is some sort of corruption identified???
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or maybe if they declared certain mail in ballots as invalid, cant really see another way for trump to win the popular vote, if one or 2 states had counting problems that should never make a 4 million difference??
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rik wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:01 am
why popular vote winner is 1.01/1.02 65 to back, even recount hard to see them adding 4 million votes worst realistically could happen is a void market if there is some sort of corruption identified???
Beats me! Perhaps people believe the Supreme Court will uncover a massive multi-million vote fraud and reverse it, or maybe such people only exist in the US. ;)
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ye fook this im out
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Mark Meadows has the virus :roll:
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They'll need to deep clean the Whitehouse before Biden moves in. And does the Whitehouse have a basement? ;)
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Derek27 wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:49 am
They'll need to deep clean the Whitehouse before Biden moves in. And does the Whitehouse have a basement? ;)
Basement :lol: Will be very similar to weekend at Bernie's.

Overall probably a good outcome, the Senate held by GOP prevents as much progressive bullshit as possible and frustates much of legislative agenda and sleepy Joe wheeled out occassionaly to speak from teleprompter. Hope he can last out the four years (but I really worry that the 25th gets invoked at some point).
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gazuty wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 6:06 am
Derek27 wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:49 am
They'll need to deep clean the Whitehouse before Biden moves in. And does the Whitehouse have a basement? ;)
Basement :lol: Will be very similar to weekend at Bernie's.

Overall probably a good outcome, the Senate held by GOP prevents as much progressive bullshit as possible and frustates much of legislative agenda and sleepy Joe wheeled out occassionaly to speak from teleprompter. Hope he can last out the four years (but I really worry that the 25th gets invoked at some point).
I'm not worried about that, I like women with power, excluding our own two female leaders. ;)
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These election markets will have plenty of people wanting to release funds, those that do not need/want to release funds can take advantage.
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Emmson wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 6:50 am
These election markets will have plenty of people wanting to release funds, those that do not need/want to release funds can take advantage.
Backing him at 1.01 even if he is certain of winning would tie up a lot of funds until the market closes, which could surely make more than 1%.
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Derek27 wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:53 am
firlandsfarm wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:30 am
Derek27 wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:33 pm
I've heard so much crap from the Republicans from zombies leaving their graves to vote
I'm not a zombie (yet) but I am a postal voter (in the UK) and all this concern about postal voting has made me give postal voting a little thought. I'm happy that I am not fraudulent but what about after I die (or move away). A postal voting ballot slip is posted to my current address, is completed and posted back and if they are not told I have died or moved away whoever gets hold of that postal ballot voting slip can make my vote in addition to their own! OK, it will be picked up eventually but how long does 'eventually' take? It's a bit like the students (actually anyone with access to two addresses) being on two voter lists. Maybe the process of postal voting does need to be reconsidered and made more fraud proof. A national register perhaps?
Surely there can't be thousands of such cases and it shouldn't be difficult to not send ballot papers to people who are dead. Let's face it, you can't die without a death certificate. ;)

I know there are other complications that I'm not aware of but voting with your NI number, having it logged onto a central database with a list of egible voters would instantly detect a dead person voting or somebody voting twice.
Agreed, NI Number but I wouldn't be surprised by the number. Remember it's not just deaths (>500k pa though only a small number would be postal voters). Then add those at university and other reasons to have two addresses (forces) ... it all mounts up. The 'university' problem will get worse if the voting age is reduced because students will be on the voter list at home before going to uni. There has been reports of students having two votes in recent elections.
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Anbell wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:37 am
Mark Meadows has the virus :roll:
He was in a crowded room with the Trump family on election night, no masks as usual.
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abgespaced wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:05 pm
Naffman wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:33 am
But Sky News Aus. is very conservative, pretty much the complete opposite of Sky News here in the UK
Sky news is like a breath of fresh air here in Aus. Especially the evening shows. I recommend anyone check it out if you want a break from the agendas and narrative of the left-dominated MSM.
Thanks, gonna watch it 8-) .
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