US Presidential Election 2020

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Derek27 wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:14 pm
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Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:08 pm
abgespaced wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 8:46 pm


Because the election isn't over.
People seem to think it is. Al Gore was a projected winner for 37 days. This could go on for some time, multiple re counts, multiple legal battles.

I really, really hope these (insert your opinion here) legal challenges, re counts, conspiracy theories or whatever the flavour is throw up some uncertainty because as far as I'm concerned I would love to trade this market for as long as possible.
The rules suggest that once the result is projected the market can be settled. I think Betfair could and should have been clearer about when the winner will be declared given that Trump was talking about court long before election day.
Yep...let's make it easier for them.

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The problem with relying on the the mainstream media's projections is they have been so obviously anti-Trump and entirely incorrect. Same with the polls. Neither can be trusted with predicting anything about this election. They said there would be a blue wave. There was no blue wave. And the American people are waking up out of their slumber realising just how wrong they were. So tell me why they wouldn't wait for an official result and for due process.
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abgespaced wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:37 pm
The problem with relying on the the mainstream media's projections is they have been so obviously anti-Trump and entirely incorrect. Same with the polls. Neither can be trusted with predicting anything about this election. They said there would be a blue wave. There was no blue wave. And the American people are waking up out of their slumber realising just how wrong they were. So tell me why they wouldn't wait for an official result and for due process.
The media is anti-trump. Trump has had more media coverage than any president in my lifetime. If the coverage has been anti, you have to ask why.
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Biden hasn't officially won yet but now It seems splits have remerged in the Democrate party with left wing progressives demanding senior roles in his new administration.

It may not be plain sailing in the months ahead.
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Archery1969 wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:48 pm
Biden hasn't officially won yet but now It seems splits have remerged in the Democrate party with left wing progressives demanding senior roles in his new administration.

It may not be plain sailing in the months ahead.
They will self destruct, like everything that is built upon tearing things down.
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They have a swamp to refill
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It was interesting hearing Mitt Romney's views, the man who challenged Obama for his second term. The gist of what he said was that the election's lost and there's nothing to gain from challenging it but Trump's gonna do his own thing - he didn't appear to have any desire to persuade Trump to do the right thing.
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We'll see how the FTSE views this tomorrow.
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Odds on Trump now into 15s. :o
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abgespaced wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:37 pm
The problem with relying on the the mainstream media's projections is they have been so obviously anti-Trump and entirely incorrect. Same with the polls. Neither can be trusted with predicting anything about this election. They said there would be a blue wave. There was no blue wave. And the American people are waking up out of their slumber realising just how wrong they were. So tell me why they wouldn't wait for an official result and for due process.
Are you being serious? Nobody GAF about polls after an election when you've got the result - it's like studying the form of a horse race after it's already been run! Biden supporters are jubilant that he's won and Trump supporters are disappointed but gracious in defeat. ;)

I know some channels have been accused and may be guilty of calling the results too soon but generally they are projected when it's near mathematically impossibly for the leader to be headed.

The reason why I think Republicans should concede defeat is because they cannot possibly win unless the result is overturned in court, which relies on providing evidence of procedural error, and Trump's lawyer, as well as appearing as a madman yesterday put forward the argument that from "far away", the handwriting on the ballot papers appeared to be the same ( :lol: :lol: :lol: ). They may have other evidence but the very fact that he even mentioned that demonstrates that they are in absolute despair and not capable of putting forward a serious legal challenge.
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Archery1969 wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 10:22 pm
Odds on Trump now into 15s. :o
I'll wait until it's down to 3 and then I'll lay it. ;)
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Derek27 wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 10:27 pm
abgespaced wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:37 pm
The problem with relying on the the mainstream media's projections is they have been so obviously anti-Trump and entirely incorrect. Same with the polls. Neither can be trusted with predicting anything about this election. They said there would be a blue wave. There was no blue wave. And the American people are waking up out of their slumber realising just how wrong they were. So tell me why they wouldn't wait for an official result and for due process.
Are you being serious? Nobody GAF about polls after an election when you've got the result - it's like studying the form of a horse race after it's already been run! Biden supporters are jubilant that he's won and Trump supporters are disappointed but gracious in defeat. ;)

I know some channels have been accused and may be guilty of calling the results too soon but generally they are projected when it's near mathematically impossibly for the leader to be headed.

The reason why I think Republicans should concede defeat is because they cannot possibly win unless the result is overturned in court, which relies on providing evidence of procedural error, and Trump's lawyer, as well as appearing as a madman yesterday put forward the argument that from "far away", the handwriting on the ballot papers appeared to be the same ( :lol: :lol: :lol: ). They may have other evidence but the very fact that he even mentioned that demonstrates that they are in absolute despair and not capable of putting forward a serious legal challenge.
The only evidence they need is an audit.
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abgespaced wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 10:34 pm
The only evidence they need is an audit.
Need for what? To prove that they're right or to see whether or not they're right?

It's not really practical to call for an audit for every state in every election. You have to provide evidence or reason to believe that there were significant errors. A squiggly line looking similar to another squiggly line from 20 feet away isn't a valid reason to have an audit. :lol:
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abgespaced wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:59 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:48 pm
Biden hasn't officially won yet but now It seems splits have remerged in the Democrate party with left wing progressives demanding senior roles in his new administration.

It may not be plain sailing in the months ahead.
They will self destruct, like everything that is built upon tearing things down.
You are hopeful and positive for the future. ;) There's only one party in the process of self-destruction in America at the moment and it's certainly not the Democrats!
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someone said we need evidence of voter fraud.

it is a book votescam by the collier brothers.

look at how the market changed at 11 pm wednesdays.

please moderators do not be like youtube, and censor all Republicans or Conservatives.

you are using the bbc ( started by a Pro hitler supporter) to frame our discussion.

This is a coup worse than Nixon, Trump stood up to the establishment, and that has not been done in a long time, they marketed the sars virus as covid 19 to destroy the economy so he cannot be reelected.

wall of us who hate the globalist vision of the world, we have to congradulate them, they kicked our asses,

but we still have brexit, now how are they going to overcome that one?


I was so wrong about trump, just because his father was involved in interigue did not mean he ws going to be a globalist tool.

Trump was the best president since Reagan, he did a lot. Obama was there to make white America feel less guilt, he was presentation over substance.

The next republican has to defy the liberal media like Trump.

Disney buying Fox news was a killer, Fox wee turn coat, they are globalists .

Trump has given the right hope, we need someone with their own money and a clean slate.

the first act of the next republican president has to investigate the funding and the goals of movements like Black lives Matter.

the globalist served us curve balls, the have won this battle, but we have to capitalise on the weaknesses they have showed.

The deep state is not finding it easy to carry out their agendas.

We have too solve this media problem, we can all the independent, constitutionalist , Conservatives crowd fund to start our of social media platforms?


To stop the world economy to unseat trump, it shows you how desperate the establishment was.

now one can deny that the deep state exist, but they are finding it harder to achieve their goals, black people are now against the Democrats. black women still believe in the plantation, but men are turning against them.
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