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FIURE
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Dallas wrote:
FIURE wrote:Friend, I have to look exactly in pacecards.com to be able to choose horse that works for the "back to lay" strategy?
Pacecards is just one of any number of sources avaliable to use to identify a horses running style it just so happens to be cheap and easy to understand so is a popular choice
I mean,

What details do I look to identify a front runner for the "back to lay" strategy?
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When you have opened a race in pacecards if you click the 'net lead' column this will sort by those that have front run in the past (not ever race will have a horse thats a clear and known front runner) but the higher this number the better, a minuns figure shows the horse tends to run at the rear (so possibly a lay to back oppertunity).

In the top image from the 12:55 at Leicester today you can see from pacecards the horse 'Little Pop' is a clear front runner compared to the rest of the field.
You can double check this and find out further info by clicking on its name, this will open a new window where you can highlight its previous races to see how its run in the past (see bottom image)

Here you will see it confirmed as a horse that likes to be in the lead or at the front of the race by looking at its comment from past races meaning in the first race at Leicester today 'Little Pop' was a ideal runner for the back to lay stratergy
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Dallas wrote:When you have opened a race in pacecards if you click the 'net lead' column this will sort by those that have front run in the past (not ever race will have a horse thats a clear and known front runner) but the higher this number the better, a minuns figure shows the horse tends to run at the rear (so possibly a lay to back oppertunity).

In the top image from the 12:55 at Leicester today you can see from pacecards the horse 'Little Pop' is a clear front runner compared to the rest of the field.
You can double check this and find out further info by clicking on its name, this will open a new window where you can highlight its previous races to see how its run in the past (see bottom image)

Here you will see it confirmed as a horse that likes to be in the lead or at the front of the race by looking at its comment from past races meaning in the first race at Leicester today 'Little Pop' was a ideal runner for the back to lay stratergy
Thank you very much for your explanation.

My last question is, in what racing is recommended using "lay the field II"?
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FIURE wrote:Thank you very much for your explanation.

My last question is, in what racing is recommended using "lay the field II"?
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Lay the field is usually suited to competitive sprint races of 5f-7f but it can also be used in NH races and on courses with tougher uphill finishes where leading horses can often tire and get pipped near the finishing line. Plenty of info avaliable on course characteristics from sites like this
https://www.flatstats.co.uk/courses/tur ... ishes.html
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Dallas wrote:
FIURE wrote:Thank you very much for your explanation.

My last question is, in what racing is recommended using "lay the field II"?
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Lay the field is usually suited to competitive sprint races of 5f-7f but it can also be used in NH races and on courses with tougher uphill finishes where leading horses can often tire and get pipped near the finishing line. Plenty of info avaliable on course characteristics from sites like this
https://www.flatstats.co.uk/courses/tur ... ishes.html
This strategy, is liking me much at the moment I have tested in this type of racing:

2m7f Hcap Hdr = 3/3

2m5f hcap Chs = 1/1

5f Hcap = 1/1

The fear is to lose all the stake, if another horse not low at odds lay 1.75 or less
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FIURE wrote:The fear is to lose all the stake, if another horse not low at odds lay 1.75 or less
As i have said earlier in the thread no stratergy will ever work 100% of the time, your just looking for something that produces more in profits than it does in losses over time.

Over the course of a year its surprising how quickly that profit can mount up
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Dallas wrote:
FIURE wrote:The fear is to lose all the stake, if another horse not low at odds lay 1.75 or less
As i have said earlier in the thread no stratergy will ever work 100% of the time, your just looking for something that produces more in profits than it does in losses over time.

Over the course of a year its surprising how quickly that profit can mount up
The problem is, that if fault the strategy in a racing, is lost all the stake bet, therefore recover you is very difficult.
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Dallas wrote:
FIURE wrote:The fear is to lose all the stake, if another horse not low at odds lay 1.75 or less
As i have said earlier in the thread no stratergy will ever work 100% of the time, your just looking for something that produces more in profits than it does in losses over time.

Over the course of a year its surprising how quickly that profit can mount up
Hi friend, Is it possible to automate this strategy?
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FIURE wrote:Hi friend, Is it possible to automate this strategy?
Yes it can be automated, i actually have a very similar file which i was going to upload to the shared files library sometime next week, ill post the link here once its added
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Dallas wrote:
FIURE wrote:Hi friend, Is it possible to automate this strategy?
Yes it can be automated, i actually have a very similar file which i was going to upload to the shared files library sometime next week, ill post the link here once its added
It is a very interesting strategy, I am anxious to try it in BetAngel

Have eliminated in link to the video?
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FIURE wrote:
Dallas wrote:
FIURE wrote:Hi friend, Is it possible to automate this strategy?
Yes it can be automated, i actually have a very similar file which i was going to upload to the shared files library sometime next week, ill post the link here once its added
It is a very interesting strategy, I am anxious to try it in BetAngel

Have eliminated in link to the video?
Your not allowed to post links that show or advertise other software, i seen it before it was removed so i know which stratergy you where refering to
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FIURE wrote:
It is a very interesting strategy, I am anxious to try it in BetAngel

Have eliminated in link to the video?
Heres the link to download it from
viewtopic.php?f=52&t=13202
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Dallas wrote:
FIURE wrote:
It is a very interesting strategy, I am anxious to try it in BetAngel

Have eliminated in link to the video?
Heres the link to download it from
viewtopic.php?f=52&t=13202
Friend, I am investigating the possibility of bet lay 1000 to every losing horse during In-Play

Whenever a horse reaches 1000 lay odds, bet

The risk would be very low, very hard that horse to win the race, but still get a stop-loss?
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1000.0 winners are much more comon than you might expect and there is no guarantee you will get a lay matched on every losing one
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Dallas wrote:1000.0 winners are much more comon than you might expect and there is no guarantee you will get a lay matched on every losing one
I refer to this

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