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annuity
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If i had to guess, and i don't but i will anyway. I'd say something that moves Bet Angel in the direction of utilising new technology. Something away from the standard interface. Looking forward to finding out what it is anyway.
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xtrader16
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I know what the update is.....you can have multiple guesses but you will never figure it out. When is it getting released.
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northbound
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A few random guesses:

- Ability to trade Smarkets with ladder/automation and take advantage of their 2% commission

- Plenty more condition types in automation, including min-by-min soccer stats (shots on target, possession, etc...)

- Bet Angel to become a cloud service: no need to download, install anything or leave your computer/vps on all day
Korattt
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whatever it is it seems very significant, can't ever remember a build up as big as this before.. mahoosive in fact
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megarain
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Can we eliminate stuff ?

1. Is it an automation/guardian 'breakthru' (signals being re-routed)

2.Is there some intelligence behind the keyboard. So, if u wanted to back at 2.00, and 2.04 was available, on a different platform, you would get 2.02, and someone-else gets the rest ?

3.Is there a ranking/tipster button .. so, u can submit to a verification agency, of how great we all are ?

4.Is there a way to by-pass in-play delays ? That would be quite handy.

5.Or, are they just 'bug' fixes, to the existing platform .. like, net comm figures/better sound support/offset betting(I know)/horse number by name on ladder/etc.
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ok, my two guesses were limit orders & tick increment changes
Bluesky
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LeTiss wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:30 am

I have zero interest in trading horses 'in play' and IMO that will not produce a wave of new savvy traders, it's more likely to produce blown banks where problem gamblers have another opportunity to lose control of their senses
I agree most people would lose even more money if this is what is planned. I would imagine though that there would be a few very smart individuals or more likely syndicates that would be able to make a killing from this technology.

Unfortunately I would not be on of them as like you I don't have much of an interest trading in running either.
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ruthlessimon wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 3:44 pm
That's exactly what I was thinking too :) It's such a genius feature, I can't believe there are no workarounds. Peter goes back & watches old Cheltenham videos to refine his skills. Therefore actually re-trading it would take it to the next level. A trader who wants to learn shorties could trade 100s a day etc - rather than the sporadic 6 if he's lucky! It would benefit everyone - especially those who want to learn but work during the afternoon.
I was really surprised when I started sports trading that practising on historical data was not possible as its so common place in the financial industry. Why do you guys think BF doesn't introduce some kind of small charge for this for DIY traders (ie not commercial operators). Is its just more trouble than its worth to them?
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jimibt
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don't want to blow the surprise, but i've heard that the practice mode screen colour is being changed to match the live version. this means that you can trade greyhound races and publish your results without needing a photoshop licence as well... :D
iambic_pentameter
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An advanced modelling tool for the racing markets would be interesting.

IE the horse racing equivalent of Tennis Trader or Soccer Mystic.
iambic_pentameter
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jimibt wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:45 am
don't want to blow the surprise, but i've heard that the practice mode screen colour is being changed to match the live version. this means that you can trade greyhound races and publish your results without needing a photoshop licence as well... :D
Lovely little bit of satire from Jimibt, there!
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iambic_pentameter wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:46 am
An advanced modelling tool for the racing markets would be interesting.

IE the horse racing equivalent of Tennis Trader or Soccer Mystic.
now that would be very interesting,

I'm sure I came across Peter being at Betfair HQ a couple of weeks back with him demonstrating the new version there
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mjmorris335
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I've no idea what's on the Bet Angel horizon, but the problem with trailing something in this way is that whatever 'it' is (and it's going to change the way we trade, don't forget) it will have to be HUGE.

Anything less and it will be a damp squib.

Don't we all trade in different ways anyway? So I suppose if it affects ALL of us...

Mike
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LeTiss
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Korattt wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:53 am
iambic_pentameter wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:46 am
An advanced modelling tool for the racing markets would be interesting.

IE the horse racing equivalent of Tennis Trader or Soccer Mystic.
now that would be very interesting,

I'm sure I came across Peter being at Betfair HQ a couple of weeks back with him demonstrating the new version there
I don't see how that could possibly work with any degree of accuracy. In Play Horse Racing is nowhere near as predictable as Tennis and Football
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mcgoo
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northbound wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:06 am
A few random guesses:

- Ability to trade Smarkets with ladder/automation and take advantage of their 2% commission

- Plenty more condition types in automation, including min-by-min soccer stats (shots on target, possession, etc...)

- Bet Angel to become a cloud service: no need to download, install anything or leave your computer/vps on all day
My money is on cloud :) Can't stand the suspense :shock:
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