Question about earnings of Professionals

[Derek27]

Can you not just except that there's not enough money in the world to satisfy you?

It's a fact of life that nobody in the world wanted to lay that player for 10,000 at 3.25. Betting is all about finding opportunities that exist and taking them. They won't get handed to you on a plate.

[MemphisFlash]

interesting you backed ostapenko at 3.25, at this point she must have been drifting as sloane stevens came back and won the match.
when ostapenko reached 3.25 her odds continued to drift and drift and drift so how how did you make £39 by backing her?

[Euler]

I trade millions a week, so I agree, simply not enough money in the markets. Racing only does about £10bn a year.

As has been mentioned elsewhere on the thread its a question of what you are doing. I'd love the markets to be bigger, but for most they are very adequate if you want to have a cumulative total.

[MemphisFlash]

I trade millions a week, so I agree, simply not enough money in the markets. Racing only does about £10bn a year.

As has been mentioned elsewhere on the thread its a question of what you are doing. I'd love the markets to be bigger, but for most they are very adequate if you want to have a cumulative total.

no pleasing some people, lol

[Lucacrebbe]

interesting you backed ostapenko at 3.25, at this point she must have been drifting as sloane stevens came back and won the match.
when ostapenko reached 3.25 her odds continued to drift and drift and drift so how how did you make £39 by backing her?

There has been a little swing in witch I have profited so welll

But I have lost it all in the tie break.

Because knowing the statistic (Ostapenko had won 5 tie break / 5 in Miami open) I have backed her at 2.66 in the tie break.

She had lost the tie break, and I have lost all my profit.

It happens.


Derek it is possible that a lot of people would have backed her in the range of 3,25- 3.40 if there would have been international liquidity

[MemphisFlash]

the gamblers and punters yes would have taken that price,
most traders would have laid ostapenko way before she got to 3.25.

[Lucacrebbe]

I trade millions a week, so I agree, simply not enough money in the markets. Racing only does about £10bn a year.

As has been mentioned elsewhere on the thread its a question of what you are doing. I'd love the markets to be bigger, but for most they are very adequate if you want to have a cumulative total.

Once again. You trade horses, I don't know anything about horses, I don't trade things I don't know anything about.

Also tennis is easly predictable. There are humans playing, not Horses, the facial expressions, the statistics are really important, and they really matters to improve your trading.

How can some horses around the world be predictable? You are simple gambling with MACD, scalping around the book , hoping they do not match your trade when you don't want (causing you losses)
This is gamble. I am not used to play in this way.
Also it's stressful.

[MemphisFlash]

tennis predictable, Ha! was it predictable when federer traded at 1.01 a couple of weeks ago
against Del Potro and then went on to lose. Yes that is predictable in Fantasy land!

[ShaunWhite]

I can't trade too many match per time, without losing confidence on my trades.

My dream is to stake 10k on a single match, because my trading strategy it does not relay on spreading bets around various matches

How many trades per month do you hope to do?

If the number is below a certain critical mass, you will struggle to overcome variance, ie the natural fluctuations in your results.

Now that you have a winning strategy, you need to find others.

Have you looked at automating the smaller known edges on the hundreds of games that are regularly played? As you know 1 x 1000 is the same as 100 x 10.

Lots of people here run BA bots on multiple games simultaneously without even having to watch the games and then they boost their income on key games like you will. (over to you Dallas )

[Lucacrebbe]

the gamblers and punters yes would have taken that price,
most traders would have laid ostapenko way before she got to 3.25.

Do you know anything about tennis?

Ostapenko is that kind of playerin who make a lot of unforced errors making think the avearage joe punter that she is losing the set, but in reality Ostapenko is always ''in the match'', even if she does not looks like that.

Made a good deal at 3,25

I have also backed her at the beginning of the match at 2,38

The odds have risen and I was losing 30$
Did I close my trade?

No.

Why?

Because I knew her price was not that.

Made first 12$ of profit after 10-15 minuts.

[Derek27]

interesting you backed ostapenko at 3.25, at this point she must have been drifting as sloane stevens came back and won the match.
when ostapenko reached 3.25 her odds continued to drift and drift and drift so how how did you make £39 by backing her?

There has been a little swing in witch I have profited so welll

But I have lost it all in the tie break.

Because knowing the statistic (Ostapenko had won 5 tie break / 5 in Miami open) I have backed her at 2.66 in the tie break.

She had lost the tie break, and I have lost all my profit.

It happens.


Derek it is possible that a lot of people would have backed her in the range of 3,25- 3.40 if there would have been international liquidity

So if you could back her for $10,000 you would have lost your profit on the tie-break?

A lot of people would back Man. City to win the Premiership at 3.0 - but nobody's mad enough to lay them at that price!

You don't place bets to cater for people who want to take them - you place bets that you think are to your advantage. That's what betting is all about!

[ShaunWhite]

Luca listen to MemphisFlash, he makes 1000s from simple bots every week, he would be a good person for you to talk to about it.

( right that's you and Dallas stitched up..... Derek next)

[Lucacrebbe]

tennis predictable, Ha! was it predictable when federer traded at 1.01 a couple of weeks ago
against Del Potro and then went on to lose. Yes that is predictable in Fantasy land!

Is predictable to scalp

And it's also pretty predictable how will the match end.

In fact after Ostapenko had lost the tie-break in the final I had already understood that she will have probably lost the match.


Why?

Make math: Ostapenko has never lost a single tie break during Miami Open (and she plaied 5 tie break/ 5 and won them all).

Why has she lost this one?

Simply too emotions involved, she's not at the best... it's somenthing strange for her to lose a tie break.

Conclusions: there are high odds she will lose the match.

So she did.

[MemphisFlash]

ostapenko is a base line power hitter, she has no variety in her game, if someone comes in and plays serve and volley,
she is going to get beat every time.

[Lucacrebbe]

Luca listen to MemphisFlash, he makes 1000s from simple bots every week, he would be a good person for you to talk to about it.

( right that's you and Dallas stitched up..... Derek next)

I don't believe in bots, but if this user can show me his strategy... ypou have to explain me how a bot can make you win... oh yes you believe into Tecnical Analisis... oh yes, TA is really good...