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Archery1969
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jamesedwards wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 12:25 pm
Surprised that Archery hasn't been on here foretelling the end of the world. Perhaps his system is down ;)
Nothing wrong with my system, its Apple based. :D
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Euler wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 11:23 am
sniffer66 wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 11:19 am
This is when I'm so glad to be retired. I used to do IT Security and Systems Management for BUPA, not sure if they are affected but it would be War Rooms and 18-20 hour days right now. I can sit back in the sunshine and relax :)
IT support is one of those great underrated occupations.

You are given a problem you have never seen before and somehow you are expected to solve it. You really have to outthink lots of things to find a solution.

Complex systems often throw up really wild problems, that are so difficult to unpick.
Well thank you, sir. Worked in It application support for a significant part of my career.
Your software is great. The various stuff I worked on wasn't. Being in support meant having the crap created by lazy development dumped in your lap daily with SLA penalties dangling over your head. I've never heard a single manager compliment support like that. Excellent!!!!
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jamesedwards
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Archery1969 wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 12:51 pm
jamesedwards wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 12:25 pm
Surprised that Archery hasn't been on here foretelling the end of the world. Perhaps his system is down ;)
Nothing wrong with my system, its Apple based. :D
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Archery1969
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I hope cloud strike have allot of money and/or insurance as they could be hit with worldwide fines, claims and even court cases. Potential running into billions and billions.
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Crazyskier
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 11:33 am
Archery1969 wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 10:54 am
The problem is with Cloud Strike
Ahh, sorry missed the subtle difference ... thanks for clarifying
It's Crowdstrike - a huge sponsor of the Mercedes F1 team. They manage virus and IT risk for corporates globally.

CS
Archery1969
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Crazyskier wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 2:33 pm
firlandsfarm wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 11:33 am
Archery1969 wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 10:54 am
The problem is with Cloud Strike
Ahh, sorry missed the subtle difference ... thanks for clarifying
It's Crowdstrike - a huge sponsor of the Mercedes F1 team. They manage virus and IT risk for corporates globally.

CS
Well, seems like they can’t manage their own risks. What a fuck up by them. Who the hell would go to them now for advice. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.
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SpikeyBob
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The timing of this article from 'The Register' (yesterday) is pure gold:

"Firms skip security reviews of major app updates about half the time"

https://www.theregister.com/2024/07/18/ ... w_failure/
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Derek27
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Looks like it's a trip back to the 1960s, plane tickets being written by hand. :lol:
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Euler
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It's crazy how this has had such a wide impact. You can imagine forigen hackers suddenly realising there is a way to bring down all windows devices. It's amazing.

https://x.com/raymo_g/status/1814234785226604963
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firlandsfarm
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The world is so dependant on IT that we need two services in parallel.
Archery1969
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Is this also affecting the national lottery site, i cant access on desktop or mobile app ?

https://www.national-lottery.co.uk/

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firlandsfarm wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 7:27 am
The world is so dependant on IT that we need two services in parallel.
We used to have 2 mirrored data centres, with one being a redundant hot swap. Any software\security and patch updates were deployed in turn, so if we had any issues we had an instant fallback. Although I don't recall antivirus updates being ring-fenced in that way - I can't recall an AV update causing such issues. It was usually the other way around with viruses causing the impact
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sniffer66 wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 10:10 am
firlandsfarm wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 7:27 am
The world is so dependant on IT that we need two services in parallel.
We used to have 2 mirrored data centres, with one being a redundant hot swap. Any software\security and patch updates were deployed in turn, so if we had any issues we had an instant fallback. Although I don't recall antivirus updates being ring-fenced in that way - I can't recall an AV update causing such issues. It was usually the other way around with viruses causing the impact
Thats a very good point. But this whole episode does highlight that if Windows or IOS or Unix get corrupted we're pretty much screwed. Surprised it hasn''t happened.....yet. (Just channeling my inner Archery there :-)).
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firlandsfarm
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greenmark wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 11:55 am
sniffer66 wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 10:10 am
firlandsfarm wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 7:27 am
The world is so dependant on IT that we need two services in parallel.
We used to have 2 mirrored data centres, with one being a redundant hot swap. Any software\security and patch updates were deployed in turn, so if we had any issues we had an instant fallback. Although I don't recall antivirus updates being ring-fenced in that way - I can't recall an AV update causing such issues. It was usually the other way around with viruses causing the impact
Thats a very good point. But this whole episode does highlight that if Windows or IOS or Unix get corrupted we're pretty much screwed. Surprised it hasn''t happened.....yet. (Just channeling my inner Archery there :-)).
Yes but (for different reasons) we didn't take on board all the weaknesses in the service exposed by all the Zoom calls during Covid.
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firlandsfarm
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Looks like Sky is still having problems ... I can get the Test Match on TV and my phone (SkyGo) but not on my (Windows) computer.
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