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ROCKY1982
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Can someone please explain to me how come that Raya Time at Down Royal 13:20 matched at 1000 but then came in to 5
Would a lay bet be voided in this case?
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PDC
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Can't remember what happened in that race but no the lay wouldn't be voided - Caveat Emptor
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ROCKY1982 wrote:
Sat Nov 03, 2018 3:52 pm
Can someone please explain to me how come that Raya Time at Down Royal 13:20 matched at 1000 but then came in to 5
Would a lay bet be voided in this case?
Didn't see the race so it may have hit 1000 in running because people thought it had no chance of winning, but the bet would only be voided in certain circumstances, like a void race , the bet was matched in play when the market hadn't been turned inplay and a few other cases. But with any bet on the exchange it's your responsibility to lay at the odds you want , there's no palpable bets on the exchange unless it's Betfair that lay them in error :)
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o.k. cheers mate
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ROCKY1982 wrote:
Sat Nov 03, 2018 3:52 pm
Can someone please explain to me how come that Raya Time at Down Royal 13:20 matched at 1000 but then came in to 5
Would a lay bet be voided in this case?
I know Raya Time was clear but being harried by loose horse when he jinked and nearly ran out , hit the wing , four out I think lost his position , but was back in the front three between hurdles, Had a look at the video was about 2m 45 secs into the race
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Enjoyed today, didn’t make a heap but what I did worked out well, does look like a day off tomorrow.
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Coral's offering 3.0 as I post (trading 2.32). :D
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If that one didn't go in I would have got a really good pasting by the premium charge boys on Wednesday, following a string of losing arbs. :D
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Just 5 minutes between FH and Exeter's Grade 2 - what idiot does the scheduling in the UK, and yes I know they are different jurisdiction but surely common sense tells you to have 10 minutes at a minimum. Almost every other gap between FH and Exeter has been/is 10 mins but not the feature race of the whole day!
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PDC wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:58 pm
Just 5 minutes between FH and Exeter's Grade 2 - what idiot does the scheduling in the UK, and yes I know they are different jurisdiction but surely common sense tells you to have 10 minutes at a minimum. Almost every other gap between FH and Exeter has been/is 10 mins but not the feature race of the whole day!
I'm giving the UK stuff a miss today, going to use the time catch up on some other stuff
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You aren't missing a whole lot tbh, been okay but a bit of a come down after the ozzies over night.
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PDC wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:58 pm
Just 5 minutes between FH and Exeter's Grade 2 - what idiot does the scheduling in the UK, and yes I know they are different jurisdiction but surely common sense tells you to have 10 minutes at a minimum. Almost every other gap between FH and Exeter has been/is 10 mins but not the feature race of the whole day!
Do you mean the Exeter G2 race clash with the FH Ladies Handicap Chase (0-109)? What were people going to miss if they swerved the 0-109 ?

The schedulers know that serious punters will pick one or two races a day to focus on, it's only traders (or the mad bad and sad) who feel the need to be involved in everything and if a couple of races out of 100s a week clash, so what.

If you think that's tight scheduling, take a look at how the 150 dog races a day get squeezed in! It's non-stop trading action from 8:12 thru till 9:52 today, interupted by a few very average looking horse races :)
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Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:09 pm
Do you mean the Exeter G2 race clash with the FH Ladies Handicap Chase (0-109)? What were people going to miss if they swerved the 0-109 ?
Yes that is the race, they are going to miss a race which is an opportunity for the industry in both countries to earn money via the Levies, many more pounds around the country would be staked on both races given sufficient gap and time for people to know the outcome of the previous race. You just have to stand in a betting shop for a short time to see this or look at the Betfair matched volume data where such occurrences happen.

But away from that, they are selling a product to the public so it is in the sports interest to show that off to its best and scheduling another race, which as you point out was poor in quality in comparison, just 5 minutes before the biggest race of the whole day and one of the biggest races of the week is not doing that. This fact is highlighted by Exeter waiting all day for FH to finish before they start their races, but rather than delaying a race it would make more sense to schedule them better in the first place.
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Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:09 pm
if a couple of races out of 100s a week clash, so what.
If it can be avoided it should be at all costs for reasons already mentioned but also for the simple fact that if they can avoid the clash with better planning why wouldn't you. Week in week out measures are not taken to avoid needless clashes. If you do have to have clashes due to scheduling pressures then again you want to have the clashes on your worse product not your best product if at all possible which in the vast majority of cases is possible.

This subject has been done to death elsewhere on the forum so I won't bother carrying it on anymore but it just frustrates me from an industry view point that they do nothing about it, from a trading view point I often find it preferable as it means attention is placed on the big race which leaves the other poorer market quieter and I often prefer the poorer quality market and find opportunities are opened up that wouldn't be if the scheduling was better planned.
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PDC wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:58 pm
Just 5 minutes between FH and Exeter's Grade 2 - what idiot does the scheduling in the UK, and yes I know they are different jurisdiction but surely common sense tells you to have 10 minutes at a minimum. Almost every other gap between FH and Exeter has been/is 10 mins but not the feature race of the whole day!
I stopped following form a couple of years ago to concentrate on trading but the Haldon Gold Cup was always one of my favourite early season races, Flagship Uberallies being my most memorable. The race has quite an impressive roll of honour.
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I'm enjoying Kempton's stable markets, gradually making last night's losses back. :D
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