Coronavirus - A pale horse,4 men and ....beer
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Archery1969
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superfrank
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This week's BBC Panorama programme on PPE featured 5 NHS doctors - ALL have been revealed to have a history of left-wing political activism.
The BBC's code of conduct obliges it to disclose ‘Contributors’ Affiliations’, but it seems they forgot.
Panorama's PPE Investigation Was Party Political Broadcast - Guido Fawkes
https://order-order.com/2020/04/28/pano ... broadcast/
The BBC's code of conduct obliges it to disclose ‘Contributors’ Affiliations’, but it seems they forgot.
Panorama's PPE Investigation Was Party Political Broadcast - Guido Fawkes
https://order-order.com/2020/04/28/pano ... broadcast/
Read the post from Kieran, I was going to say something similar. I didn't watch the program but there's not much point in criticising the evidence givers while ignoring the evidence. The real issue is, are their claims true?superfrank wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 12:41 pmThis week's BBC Panorama programme on PPE featured 5 NHS doctors - ALL have been revealed to have a history of left-wing political activism.
The BBC's code of conduct obliges it to disclose ‘Contributors’ Affiliations’, but it seems they forgot.
Panorama's PPE Investigation Was Party Political Broadcast - Guido Fawkes
https://order-order.com/2020/04/28/pano ... broadcast/
I'm really quite confused by the care home reporting/testing/PPE levels etc.Derek27 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 6:50 pmRead the post from Kieran, I was going to say something similar. I didn't watch the program but there's not much point in criticising the evidence givers while ignoring the evidence. The real issue is, are their claims true?superfrank wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 12:41 pmThis week's BBC Panorama programme on PPE featured 5 NHS doctors - ALL have been revealed to have a history of left-wing political activism.
The BBC's code of conduct obliges it to disclose ‘Contributors’ Affiliations’, but it seems they forgot.
Panorama's PPE Investigation Was Party Political Broadcast - Guido Fawkes
https://order-order.com/2020/04/28/pano ... broadcast/
We've had several weeks (months) advanced notice of this situation, thanks to China/Italy/Spain but we're still on the same trajectory as Italy/Spain. I realise people will point to different reporting strategies, but for me the care home/home deaths are astonishing. I remember weeks ago someone on here talking about this being a cull of the old and dismissed it as ridiculous. We would never allow that, would we?
But now that view seems all too horribly accurate.
Hopefully, people will keep staying home and distancing and being hygienic, otherwise the govt won't relax anything.
It's a sad fact that homeless people freeze to death every winter and JSA/ESA/UC claimants take their own lives after being sanctioned or spending weeks waiting for money, but the government doesn't even acknowledge it, never mind care. Don't know about elderly people but like the aforementioned, they don't pay tax and don't appear to be a major concern to the government.
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Archery1969
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Not all countries have been reporting the death rates correctly, especially in care homes and hospices.
In Italy and Spain several care homes were visited by the police who found all the residents dead and the support staff missing. They had basically been left to die with no medical help.
I imagine at some point there is going to be criminal proceedings against certain people, companies and even governments.
In Italy and Spain several care homes were visited by the police who found all the residents dead and the support staff missing. They had basically been left to die with no medical help.
I imagine at some point there is going to be criminal proceedings against certain people, companies and even governments.
Big hint from Boris about the imposition (advice) about the general wearing of face masks.
That cheeses me off.
As a spectacle wearer i know the plume of breath that spurts out from a facemask.
Perhaps it means breath is projected 1 metre rather than 2 metre.
But until all people that REALLY need PPE have them we shouldn't provoke people into panic-buying something that is irrelevent in a properly observed social-distancing/hygienic environment.
That cheeses me off.
As a spectacle wearer i know the plume of breath that spurts out from a facemask.
Perhaps it means breath is projected 1 metre rather than 2 metre.
But until all people that REALLY need PPE have them we shouldn't provoke people into panic-buying something that is irrelevent in a properly observed social-distancing/hygienic environment.
When the guy behind you in the queue sneezes you'll be glad he's wearing a face mask.greenmark wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:48 pmBig hint from Boris about the imposition (advice) about the general wearing of face masks.
That cheeses me off.
As a spectacle wearer i know the plume of breath that spurts out from a facemask.
Perhaps it means breath is projected 1 metre rather than 2 metre.
But until all people that REALLY need PPE have them we shouldn't provoke people into panic-buying something that is irrelevent in a properly observed social-distancing/hygienic environment.
I've seen people playing with their phones, chewing their nails and the grabbing a trolley (ignoring the sanitisation station). Every face mask could potentially be a sink of virus due to people wearing the same one, day in day out, under the illusion that its a competent barrier.Derek27 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 6:15 pmWhen the guy behind you in the queue sneezes you'll be glad he's wearing a face mask.greenmark wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:48 pmBig hint from Boris about the imposition (advice) about the general wearing of face masks.
That cheeses me off.
As a spectacle wearer i know the plume of breath that spurts out from a facemask.
Perhaps it means breath is projected 1 metre rather than 2 metre.
But until all people that REALLY need PPE have them we shouldn't provoke people into panic-buying something that is irrelevent in a properly observed social-distancing/hygienic environment.
It isn't.
Social-distancing and hygiene are highly effective!
South Korea had/has a leading trace/test/isolate strategy. (Forget China their figures look like pure invention now).
It's bugger all to do with masks. Think about it!
If you observe social distancing and hand washing and breaking the link between sources of infection ie stuff and your face.
Germany did the same as South Korea.
Face masks as a solution is bollocks.