Ukraine Crisis

[Kai]

One thing is for certain, Putin will have much to explain.



(Disclaimer: this post is intended as a bad joke and should, under no circumstance, be taken seriously.)

[Derek27]

One thing is for certain, Putin will have much to explain.



(Disclaimer: this post is intended as a bad joke and should, under no circumstance, be taken seriously.)

[Archery1969]

Ukraine has destroyed two S-500 hypersonic air defense systems before they started launching.

[Derek27]

Ukraine has destroyed two S-500 hypersonic air defense systems before they started launching.

I thought the S-500 was still in development. I've often wondered, however sophisticated these anti-aircraft weapons are, they must be vulnerable to enemy aircraft when transported into position and vulnerable to long-range rockets and artillery even when in use. According to Wiki, they cost $600M per unit.

[Archery1969]

Ukraine has destroyed two S-500 hypersonic air defense systems before they started launching.

I thought the S-500 was still in development. I've often wondered, however sophisticated these anti-aircraft weapons are, they must be vulnerable to enemy aircraft when transported into position and vulnerable to long-range rockets and artillery even when in use. According to Wiki, they cost $600M per unit.

The first S-500 regiment went on combat duty in October 2021.

Both units in Ukraine were taken out by HIMARS rockets fired from 80 miles away before they were operational. They were being tracked by the Bayraktar TB2 armed drones supplied by the Turkish contractor. Which is suprising because I thought Turkey was Putin's friend. Ukraine bought 20 of them and Bayraktar donated a further 5 for free.

I think sooner or later Putin is going to find himself in a corner. The S-500 was supposed to be his jewel in the crown so to speak.

[Kai]

The S-500 was supposed to be his jewel in the crown so to speak.

Yeah it's bad but nowhere near as bad as losing his prestigious elite 1st Guards Tank Army with this Kharkiv counter-offensive, or having to tell his people that the flagship Moskva has been promoted to a submarine

[Derek27]

Ukraine has destroyed two S-500 hypersonic air defense systems before they started launching.

I thought the S-500 was still in development. I've often wondered, however sophisticated these anti-aircraft weapons are, they must be vulnerable to enemy aircraft when transported into position and vulnerable to long-range rockets and artillery even when in use. According to Wiki, they cost $600M per unit.

The first S-500 regiment went on combat duty in October 2021.

Both units in Ukraine were taken out by HIMARS rockets fired from 80 miles away before they were operational. They were being tracked by the Bayraktar TB2 armed drones supplied by the Turkish contractor. Which is suprising because I thought Turkey was Putin's friend. Ukraine bought 20 of them and Bayraktar donated a further 5 for free.

I think sooner or later Putin is going to find himself in a corner. The S-500 was supposed to be his jewel in the crown so to speak.

Turkey is a slut who would sleep with anyone. On one hand they're part of NATO and assisting Ukraine, on the other they want to purchase the S-500 system from Russia. Quite ironic when they helped to destroy them.

[Archery1969]

The S-500 was supposed to be his jewel in the crown so to speak.

Yeah it's bad but nowhere near as bad as losing his prestigious elite 1st Guards Tank Army with this Kharkiv counter-offensive, or having to tell his people that the flagship Moskva has been promoted to a submarine

[Archery1969]

I thought the S-500 was still in development. I've often wondered, however sophisticated these anti-aircraft weapons are, they must be vulnerable to enemy aircraft when transported into position and vulnerable to long-range rockets and artillery even when in use. According to Wiki, they cost $600M per unit.

The first S-500 regiment went on combat duty in October 2021.

Both units in Ukraine were taken out by HIMARS rockets fired from 80 miles away before they were operational. They were being tracked by the Bayraktar TB2 armed drones supplied by the Turkish contractor. Which is suprising because I thought Turkey was Putin's friend. Ukraine bought 20 of them and Bayraktar donated a further 5 for free.

I think sooner or later Putin is going to find himself in a corner. The S-500 was supposed to be his jewel in the crown so to speak.

Turkey is a slut who would sleep with anyone. On one hand they're part of NATO and assisting Ukraine, on the other they want to purchase the S-500 system from Russia. Quite ironic when they helped to destroy them.

Yeah, i really dont understand what Turkey is upto. The reason they were invited to join NATO must have been from a purely strategic point of view given their geographic location.

But I dont thiink they could afford the S-500 as they are in a right financial mess. Although, to be honest, not sure I would want the S-500.

[Archery1969]

Glad I am not in the Russian army, this video just about sums them up, leaving injured comrades and legging it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qb9rCEz6T3M

[Kai]

Personally think it's good to have someone like Turkey who can play both sides, whilst predictably always serving their best interests. They are often in a unique position to do some actual diplomatic bridge-building, like with the much needed grain exports recently.

Historically too, they were often used as a cultural and diplomatic bridge between West and East.

[Derek27]

Glad I am not in the Russian army, this video just about sums them up, leaving injured comrades and legging it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qb9rCEz6T3M

If I was ten metres away from a comrade who gets blown up, I think I'd run like fuck away from the blast, take cover if possible, and then go back to see if he's got any fingers left (over). In fairness, the footage only shows soldiers running away from the blast, you won't know if they went back later.

[Kai]

Glad I am not in the Russian army, this video just about sums them up, leaving injured comrades and legging it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qb9rCEz6T3M

I follow this channel btw to stay up to date on the conflict : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bihU0FLH9To

The guy is an Air Force vet who served as a Nuclear and missile operations officer, so a fitting narrator if you ask me

[Archery1969]

Question for the experts:

Why is Russia allowed to launch missiles into Ukraine but nobody wants to give Ukraine the ability to launch missiles into Russia.

Hardly seems fair to me ?

[sniffer66]

Question for the experts:

Why is Russia allowed to launch missiles into Ukraine but nobody wants to give Ukraine the ability to launch missiles into Russia.

Hardly seems fair to me ?

Me neither, but I'd assume the risk of escalation due to NATO involvement.

MY worry now is having the Putin bear backed into a corner. A man with nothing more to lose, with his finger on nukes is a scary proposition.