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Archery1969
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U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan has just dropped all pretrial deadlines in the major case against President-elect Donald Trump related to the 2020 presidential election, putting the proceedings on pause.

Special Counsel Jack Smith is hoping to unwind his criminal prosecution of the past and future president before Inauguration Day. Trump was indicted in August 2023 for allegedly participating in an unlawful scheme to subvert the transfer of power after losing the 2020 election. He has pleaded not guilty.

The justice department does not prosecute sitting presidents, and the historic case was always expected to be discontinued if Trump returned to the White House.
Because of the unprecedented nature of this case, though, we don't know yet how exactly Smith will end the prosecution.
JuiceyJones
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Archery1969 wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2024 1:17 pm
JuiceyJones wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:29 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2024 5:28 pm


There is probably a big difference, Vance is white American, Lammy is neither.

Even the Australian Ambassador has removed all his tweets and Facebook comments about Trump.

Everyone says Trump is racist and he also hates centre left, left or radical left.

Personally I don’t think Trump will care what people said about him. But as Piers Morgan and Farage said, he does hold grudges.

However, I am convinced he will go after China with 60% tariffs and everyone else with 10% tariffs. Will be interesting to see what the EU do. Problem is the UK will be stuck in the middle with no free trade agreement with any of them. That combined with the Bank of England statement that Reeves budget could increase inflation doesn’t bowed well for the UK economy next year or after.
So when you say go after other countries with tariffs what exactly do you mean?
Tariffs are only an imposed tax on the company/companies that import the goods/services by thier goverment. The exporting country doesnt pay any of this.

Im assuming I just read your message wrong when you said "put 60% tariffs on China and 10% on other countries". Like they would be responsible for it.

He said he wants to put 60% tariffs on China and 10% on other countries. But he didn’t specify which other countries. But the thinking is he meant EU, Canada and Mexico.
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JuiceyJones wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:57 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2024 1:17 pm
JuiceyJones wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:29 pm


So when you say go after other countries with tariffs what exactly do you mean?
Tariffs are only an imposed tax on the company/companies that import the goods/services by thier goverment. The exporting country doesnt pay any of this.

Im assuming I just read your message wrong when you said "put 60% tariffs on China and 10% on other countries". Like they would be responsible for it.

Archery1969
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JuiceyJones wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:57 pm
JuiceyJones wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:57 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2024 1:17 pm


Tariffs are only an imposed tax on the company/companies that import the goods/services by thier goverment. The exporting country doesnt pay any of this.

Im assuming I just read your message wrong when you said "put 60% tariffs on China and 10% on other countries". Like they would be responsible for it.

No what I meant is those companies may not import them because of the tariffs and that would harm the companies exporting.
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Trump tariffs could cost UK £22bn of exports https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz9x32eeegko
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Archery1969 wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:05 pm
Trump tariffs could cost UK £22bn of exports https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz9x32eeegko
Is the US such a profitable export market to justify that level of tariff?
Maybe Trump intends to snuggle up to Putin. But tariif EU and China would be insane. Russia isn't going to fill that gap.
Archery1969
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greenmark wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:27 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:05 pm
Trump tariffs could cost UK £22bn of exports https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz9x32eeegko
Is the US such a profitable export market to justify that level of tariff?
Maybe Trump intends to snuggle up to Putin. But tariif EU and China would be insane. Russia isn't going to fill that gap.
I think the idea is to buy US goods and not foreign imports.

Jaguar Landrover won’t be happy as 60% of there profit comes from North America and China. A trade war is not going to help anyone but wiping 1% or more of the UK growth rate could be seriously bad and blow Reeves / OBR growth rate out of the water. Just have to wait and see.
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Archery1969 wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:05 pm
Trump tariffs could cost UK £22bn of exports https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz9x32eeegko
My take is that he sees Tariffs as a bargaining tool.
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Euler wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2024 11:53 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:05 pm
Trump tariffs could cost UK £22bn of exports https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz9x32eeegko
My take is that he sees Tariffs as a bargaining tool.
What would he want from the UK, reversal of the Chagos Island decision ?
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Trump is a shoot first sort of guy. So he won't worry about the details, just pass that win to his negotiators.
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You got 7 days to come up with a plan to assassinate Donald Trump!

Talk about being unreasonable. :lol: :lol:
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"Mr. Trump understands the importance of our special relationship.

I suppose that explains why we're running for cover, fearing being hit my massive tariffs. :lol:
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Derek27 wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2024 5:15 pm
"Mr. Trump understands the importance of our special relationship.

I suppose that explains why we're running for cover, fearing being hit my massive tariffs. :lol:
Your be fine as long as you get Trumps new golf course through planning quickly.

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Archery1969 wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2024 5:21 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2024 5:15 pm
"Mr. Trump understands the importance of our special relationship.

"Mr. Trump understands the importance of our special relationship.

Special relationship, what does that even mean, it always makes me laugh. Joe Biden made it quite clear he was more interested in Ireland than the UK, the same can be said of a number of US Presidents, Kennedy and Clinton included all want the British totally out of Ireland regardless of the Unionist being the majority in Northern Ireland, although a referendum must be looming soon.

It seems the special relationship is for the British to follow the US in with our troops to places like Iraq and Afghanistan, or for vetoes in the UN, or dare I say allowing the US forward bases in the UK, as a front line defense not for Britain or Europe, but for the US.

So why these hypocrite Presidents were going to IRA fundraising parties, to bring about a so called united Ireland with no British rule, they completely ignore the land they stole from the indigenous Indians.

The only thing I can genuinely say about Trump, is he is a quarter British.
Archery1969
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conduirez wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2024 6:17 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2024 5:21 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2024 5:15 pm
"Mr. Trump understands the importance of our special relationship.

"Mr. Trump understands the importance of our special relationship.

Special relationship, what does that even mean, it always makes me laugh. Joe Biden made it quite clear he was more interested in Ireland than the UK, the same can be said of a number of US Presidents, Kennedy and Clinton included all want the British totally out of Ireland regardless of the Unionist being the majority in Northern Ireland, although a referendum must be looming soon.

It seems the special relationship is for the British to follow the US in with our troops to places like Iraq and Afghanistan, or for vetoes in the UN, or dare I say allowing the US forward bases in the UK, as a front line defense not for Britain or Europe, but for the US.

So why these hypocrite Presidents were going to IRA fundraising parties, to bring about a so called united Ireland with no British rule, they completely ignore the land they stole from the indigenous Indians.

The only thing I can genuinely say about Trump, is he is a quarter British.
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There is no special relationship, if there was then the UK would have been given a free trade agreement decades ago.
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