Today's Horse Racing
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MobiusGrey
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Well that didn't take long after that post, back to the drawing board, seem to be getting closer though, these blow ups are gradually getting further apart. I seem to have really good spells then all of a sudden there will be what seems to me to be a random 'spike' where it never recovers from and the odds just keep getting pushed lower and lower. I'll keep trying to lay at what I consider to be the bottom but it just compounds the losses more as it smashes through yet another point of support.MobiusGrey wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:51 pmDid or does everyone have a breakthrough moment with trading horses where it just clicks all of a sudden or is it more of a gradual process? I've been trying to crack the pre-race markets on and off for a few years, anything from manully scalping/swing trading to fully automated.
I've had success that doesn't seem to last more than a week but the past few weeks I've been using a couple of Dallas's servants that I've amended for my own use and I seemed to have turned a corner. I'm still in profit which is one thing but I just have this nagging doubt in my head that it's just luck, it doesn't really feel like I expected, it just feels like I'm waiting for another big blow up rather than that "yes I've finally nailed it!" feeling.
I don't seem to be able to identify the ones where it bounces back and the ones where it doesn't, I'm wondering if it has anything to do with not watching the horses go down, if one is acting up could this be the issue?
A lovely trade on Amjaady, realised it a mile out, would of liked to have been a lot more patient with the move back in... but happy with that overall, best trade of the day 
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ruthlessimon
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Depends on how you define breakthrough.MobiusGrey wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:51 pmDid or does everyone have a breakthrough moment with trading horses where it just clicks all of a sudden or is it more of a gradual process? I've been trying to crack the pre-race markets on and off for a few years, anything from manully scalping/swing trading to fully automated.
Also, a lot depends on the personality of the trader. Anyone profitable can claim "it clicked" - but for me, that's a dangerous mentality. There are very very profitable trader's scared of losing edge. The way they hedge that risk, constantly expanding, constantly refining, constantly questioning - suddenly, that doesn't look like click, more so a gradual process
600 according to TF, with the 2nd place hitting a low of 1.01
Think there was a 160 winner turned over a 1.05 a race or two before - just remember seeing that on my overview screen
Highest price I captured in my IP data snapshots was 460 but only pennies traded at that price.
£88.20 (or £44.10) was matched at an average price of 27.69 when the LTP dropped from 460 to 12. In theory that could have spiked up to Dallas's 600 and then dipped down to 12 given that the average price for that £88.20 was 27.69 then it would likely have been only been a few pennies traded at 600.
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wearthefoxhat
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Worcester hold an inspection for their next fixture on May 7th 2020.
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Think you're in the wrong place, you need Today's Swan Racing threadwearthefoxhat wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:57 amWorcester hold an inspection for their next fixture on May 7th 2020.
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Thanks wolf that’s interestingWolf1877 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:20 pmHighest price I captured in my IP data snapshots was 460 but only pennies traded at that price.
£88.20 (or £44.10) was matched at an average price of 27.69 when the LTP dropped from 460 to 12. In theory that could have spiked up to Dallas's 600 and then dipped down to 12 given that the average price for that £88.20 was 27.69 then it would likely have been only been a few pennies traded at 600.
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I was matched at 460 but only for 0.50p ( which is what I asked for on this occasion) and £2 at 70 and £2 at 36
I was keen to see how near the top I was, so your data captured is fairly accurate
I normally capture the charts on on home pc but on holiday at the mo
I Like how you capture the I play data, what frequency are the snapshots taken ? Do you also capture the pre play data too?
I’d like to implement something similar on my programs too (C#)
Thanks for the reply
Regards
Peter
It touched 950, but was in an update where the LTP was returned as 12.PeterLe wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:52 amThanks wolf that’s interestingWolf1877 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:20 pmHighest price I captured in my IP data snapshots was 460 but only pennies traded at that price.
£88.20 (or £44.10) was matched at an average price of 27.69 when the LTP dropped from 460 to 12. In theory that could have spiked up to Dallas's 600 and then dipped down to 12 given that the average price for that £88.20 was 27.69 then it would likely have been only been a few pennies traded at 600.
newcastle.PNG
I was matched at 460 but only for 0.50p ( which is what I asked for on this occasion) and £2 at 70 and £2 at 36
I was keen to see how near the top I was, so your data captured is fairly accurate
I normally capture the charts on on home pc but on holiday at the mo
I Like how you capture the I play data, what frequency are the snapshots taken ? Do you also capture the pre play data too?
I’d like to implement something similar on my programs too (C#)
Thanks for the reply
Regards
Peter
I got a few bets matched at random prices..
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Cracking bet that one then Peter!
I'm using Guardian/Excel with "Restrict Refresh" on a theoretical refresh of 20ms and I only capture data frames where a trade has occured in the market.
In practice Bet Angel software cycles through the markets in Guardian so it depends on how many markets are active within the specified restrict refresh period and my personal observations are that Bet Angel also drops frames probably where the excel VBA code is still running from the previous refresh (possibly a microsoft feature).
Yes I capture pre-play and inplay.
Process is BA > Excel VBA > writes snapshot data to flat files (csv/txt) on a local nvme directory (shared) > C# process (running on another PC) loads the flat file data into SQL Server with a slight time lag. Granularity is obviously a slight issue in comparison the the more complete streaming data that LinusP has captured but the lower resulting lower data volume may be more managable on typical non commercial home PCs.
Amazing level of detail there LinusP. I must take another look at your github code that grabs the streaming data.