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BF need to start thinking outside of the box and get creative with a few new markets. Tiddliwinks, chess, skittles, Scrabble....
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Diacritical Quark wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:56 am
brimson25 wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:43 am
Given that there is nothing to bet on, it's nearly time to forget how much poker has advanced in recent years (beyond my talent for it) and boot up Poker Stars.

Lets hope it's 2002 reloaded and half the table is limp-calling and folding to every single three-bet.

If you can't play poker - and I do stress, if you CAN'T play - please do this same. Invite your daftest friends too. :)
Pre Betfair I thought I'd cracked online Blackjack using advanced strategy and a loss recovery betting system called Oscars Grind. Lasted about 4 months before I took a nasty beating, ah the naievty of youth :lol:
I posted this a little while ago but I had a bot years ago that harvested join bonuses on Blackjack by playing an (almost) break even strat for the minimum number of hands. Then taking the 200% etc join bonus. Made a few grand with that one :)
Diacritical Quark
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I posted this a little while ago but I had a bot years ago that harvested join bonuses on Blackjack by playing an (almost) break even strat for the minimum number of hands. Then taking the 200% etc join bonus. Made a few grand with that one :)
In my matched betting days I started to look at a few casino bonuses as they were fairly hefty, I took a couple on and just played through Baccart which I think only has a house edge of about 1% if you only bet banker and blackjack which is 0.5% using basic strategy (or there abouts), the only problems was the horrific wager requirements to get said bonus, sometimes it's as high as 10x the bonus. Gave up on that one as I just couldn't be arsed but a bot would have been an excellent idea.
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Doctors question Britain's 'timid' approach
Dr Bharat Pankhania - senior consultant in communicable disease control at the University of Exeter told the BBC's Radio 4 Today programme: "I'm not on any side, but my view as an independent scientist is that the UK probably thinks it does not have as many cases as continental Europe.

"Or they are thinking that this will not become a large red flag as has happened in Northern Italy.

"My concerns are is that unless we keep a lid on it in the early stages then it is very difficult to contain it in later stages when we have so many more new cases being generated."

His comments were echoed by Dr Peter Drobac - an infectious disease specialist at oxford uni - who says Britain's measures are too timid.

He said: " What we seem to be seeing here in the UK is the Government seems to be thinking it can find a middle ground and slow things down enough so that it won't overwhelm the health system and that it won't go on for too long that it's going to be inconvenient.

"I don't see anybody else taking this approach and I do think it's a bit of a gamble."
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brimson25 wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:43 am
Given that there is nothing to bet on, it's nearly time to forget how much poker has advanced in recent years (beyond my talent for it) and boot up Poker Stars.

Lets hope it's 2002 reloaded and half the table is limp-calling and folding to every single three-bet.

If you can't play poker - and I do stress, if you CAN'T play - please do this same. Invite your daftest friends too. :)
Yep, I did the same recently. Pokerstars have lost all the U.S players due to black friday (Full Tilt Poker). It has re established itself as the go to place for small stakes tournaments, good guarantees, and satellites into the bigger competitions, for Non-US citizens.

The WSOP this year in Las Vegas will probably be cancelled, so the online platforms should try and do extra stuff with an available audience.
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Diacritical Quark wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:04 am
I posted this a little while ago but I had a bot years ago that harvested join bonuses on Blackjack by playing an (almost) break even strat for the minimum number of hands. Then taking the 200% etc join bonus. Made a few grand with that one :)
In my matched betting days I started to look at a few casino bonuses as they were fairly hefty, I took a couple on and just played through Baccart which I think only has a house edge of about 1% if you only bet banker and blackjack which is 0.5% using basic strategy (or there abouts), the only problems was the horrific wager requirements to get said bonus, sometimes it's as high as 10x the bonus. Gave up on that one as I just couldn't be arsed but a bot would have been an excellent idea.
I've got a spreadsheet somewhere that counts cards for Baccarret. Input the cards that are shown, then next hand, decide Player/Bank, if playing Live Baccaret online.

It could work well for the Betfair Exchange Baccaret, as you can bet on each stage of the hand. If there is a bias for Player, and the odds are favourable for the Player mid hand, then bet accordingly with good money management.
Diacritical Quark
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I've got a spreadsheet somewhere that counts cards for Baccarret. Input the cards that are shown, then next hand, decide Player/Bank, if playing Live Baccaret online.

It could work well for the Betfair Exchange Baccaret, as you can bet on each stage of the hand. If there is a bias for Player, and the odds are favourable for the Player mid hand, then bet accordingly with good money management.
Any idea what the card counting strategy is, I looked into that a few years back and couldn't find any discernable edge from counting in baccarat compared to blackjack, certainly not online due to deck penetration. The closest I think I came to finding a decent edge counting was using an adapted Ace Five count from Blackjack, I managed to find some research somewhere that counted hundreds of thousands of hands in baccarat and the two most valuable were 4 for the player and 6 for the banker. I think if I remember correctly I adapted the Ace Five count to these two cards and divided by number of decks for a true count on banker then just used some form of terrible money management like Martingale probably (I was only about 17 at the time :lol: ).
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IPL pushed back :cry: but I've been trading cricket from Australia this morning played in empty stadium so more of that please.

My last resort will be the dogs! I reckon the dogs will be on come hell or high water.
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wearthefoxhat wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:50 am
Diacritical Quark wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:04 am
I posted this a little while ago but I had a bot years ago that harvested join bonuses on Blackjack by playing an (almost) break even strat for the minimum number of hands. Then taking the 200% etc join bonus. Made a few grand with that one :)
In my matched betting days I started to look at a few casino bonuses as they were fairly hefty, I took a couple on and just played through Baccart which I think only has a house edge of about 1% if you only bet banker and blackjack which is 0.5% using basic strategy (or there abouts), the only problems was the horrific wager requirements to get said bonus, sometimes it's as high as 10x the bonus. Gave up on that one as I just couldn't be arsed but a bot would have been an excellent idea.
I've got a spreadsheet somewhere that counts cards for Baccarret. Input the cards that are shown, then next hand, decide Player/Bank, if playing Live Baccaret online.

It could work well for the Betfair Exchange Baccaret, as you can bet on each stage of the hand. If there is a bias for Player, and the odds are favourable for the Player mid hand, then bet accordingly with good money management.
Doesnt Betfair Exchange Baccaret use an 8 deck shoe. Thats some card counting going to be anyway accurate.
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Archery1969 wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:23 am
wearthefoxhat wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:50 am
Diacritical Quark wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:04 am


In my matched betting days I started to look at a few casino bonuses as they were fairly hefty, I took a couple on and just played through Baccart which I think only has a house edge of about 1% if you only bet banker and blackjack which is 0.5% using basic strategy (or there abouts), the only problems was the horrific wager requirements to get said bonus, sometimes it's as high as 10x the bonus. Gave up on that one as I just couldn't be arsed but a bot would have been an excellent idea.
I've got a spreadsheet somewhere that counts cards for Baccarret. Input the cards that are shown, then next hand, decide Player/Bank, if playing Live Baccaret online.

It could work well for the Betfair Exchange Baccaret, as you can bet on each stage of the hand. If there is a bias for Player, and the odds are favourable for the Player mid hand, then bet accordingly with good money management.
Doesnt Betfair Exchange Baccaret use an 8 deck shoe. Thats some card counting going to be anyway accurate.
I spent quite a while learning it and memorizing the starting hands of BD only to find when I went to my local Casino's they all used a few decks less than the American casinos
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wearthefoxhat wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:44 am
brimson25 wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:43 am
Given that there is nothing to bet on, it's nearly time to forget how much poker has advanced in recent years (beyond my talent for it) and boot up Poker Stars.

Lets hope it's 2002 reloaded and half the table is limp-calling and folding to every single three-bet.

If you can't play poker - and I do stress, if you CAN'T play - please do this same. Invite your daftest friends too. :)
Yep, I did the same recently. Pokerstars have lost all the U.S players due to black friday (Full Tilt Poker). It has re established itself as the go to place for small stakes tournaments, good guarantees, and satellites into the bigger competitions, for Non-US citizens.

The WSOP this year in Las Vegas will probably be cancelled, so the online platforms should try and do extra stuff with an available audience.
Sky Poker has very weak games, but not very many of them.
Diacritical Quark
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Doesnt Betfair Exchange Baccaret use an 8 deck shoe. Thats some card counting going to be anyway accurate.
That they change halfway through, deck penetration in online casinos makes counting pretty much impossible.
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wearthefoxhat
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Diacritical Quark wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:04 am

I've got a spreadsheet somewhere that counts cards for Baccarret. Input the cards that are shown, then next hand, decide Player/Bank, if playing Live Baccaret online.

It could work well for the Betfair Exchange Baccaret, as you can bet on each stage of the hand. If there is a bias for Player, and the odds are favourable for the Player mid hand, then bet accordingly with good money management.
Any idea what the card counting strategy is, I looked into that a few years back and couldn't find any discernable edge from counting in baccarat compared to blackjack, certainly not online due to deck penetration. The closest I think I came to finding a decent edge counting was using an adapted Ace Five count from Blackjack, I managed to find some research somewhere that counted hundreds of thousands of hands in baccarat and the two most valuable were 4 for the player and 6 for the banker. I think if I remember correctly I adapted the Ace Five count to these two cards and divided by number of decks for a true count on banker then just used some form of terrible money management like Martingale probably (I was only about 17 at the time :lol: ).
Here you go.
Copy of Baccarat True Card Counting.xlsx


Source: You Tube channel; Arch Stanton.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfjeiMLgdcQ

Live Stream example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3JcANjoJEM&t=712s


The videos explain it better. Its explains/shows better than I could explain it. I used it okay on the betfair exchanges during each hand when odds were 2.0+ for the player/bank bias.

The spready needs to be set near to the exchange/live screen, and practice inputting the cards as they come out, quite easy after a while.
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Archery1969 wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:23 am
wearthefoxhat wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:50 am
Diacritical Quark wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:04 am


In my matched betting days I started to look at a few casino bonuses as they were fairly hefty, I took a couple on and just played through Baccart which I think only has a house edge of about 1% if you only bet banker and blackjack which is 0.5% using basic strategy (or there abouts), the only problems was the horrific wager requirements to get said bonus, sometimes it's as high as 10x the bonus. Gave up on that one as I just couldn't be arsed but a bot would have been an excellent idea.
I've got a spreadsheet somewhere that counts cards for Baccarret. Input the cards that are shown, then next hand, decide Player/Bank, if playing Live Baccaret online.

It could work well for the Betfair Exchange Baccaret, as you can bet on each stage of the hand. If there is a bias for Player, and the odds are favourable for the Player mid hand, then bet accordingly with good money management.
Doesnt Betfair Exchange Baccaret use an 8 deck shoe. Thats some card counting going to be anyway accurate.

Yep 8 decks = 416 cards.

The spready takes all that into account.
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wearthefoxhat
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Diacritical Quark wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:38 am

Doesnt Betfair Exchange Baccaret use an 8 deck shoe. Thats some card counting going to be anyway accurate.
That they change halfway through, deck penetration in online casinos makes counting pretty much impossible.
The betfair exchange deal right through the whole shoe, down to the last 8/9 cards. It recalculates the odds and displays how many cards left from the original 416 cards.
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