Coronavirus - A pale horse,4 men and ....beer

[Derek27]

.....I try really hard not to intentionally piss all over another persons beliefs...

So do I, but probably not as hard or successfully as you.

[jamesedwards]

So, what's our best tips for Royal Ascot then?

[Kai]

So, what's our best tips for Royal Ascot then?

Surely wrong type of thread for that sort of stuff. Haven't been reading the latest posts but I think after politics, racism and religion the next topic on the agenda has to be abortion.

[to75ne]

So, what's our best tips for Royal Ascot then?

Surely wrong type of thread for that sort of stuff. Haven't been reading the latest posts but I think after politics, racism and religion the next topic on the agenda has to be abortion.

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It seems he is being tongue in check, you don't seem to be a native English speaker?

[Kai]

what gave it away

[to75ne]

what gave it away

I give you 3 guesses

[Derek27]

As I'm sure a lapsed Catholic such as yourself knows well, the laws that govern our land and much of the West, are based upon the 10 Commandments, Seven Deadly Sins and other biblical teachings.

You're not Catweazle are you?

Our laws go back to the time when witches were burnt at the stake and men were hung, drawn and quartered for public entertainment, as well as punishment. An inch was once legally defined as the length of 3 dry grains of barley laid in a line. The ten commandments didn't cover things like parking your car on a double yellow line or fly-tipping, so the law had to be modified to an extent where it's no longer relevant or recognisable from your time-period.

By the way, the following laws were also based on the 10 commandments, seven deadly sins ( even my spell checker doesn't suggest capitals) and biblical teachings!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNz4iHtGAvs

[Derek27]

My own personal ideology is to believe in people rather than gods, I think if everybody had that way of thinking then the world would be a better place than it is today.

+1

[Derek27]

So, what's our best tips for Royal Ascot then?

Surely wrong type of thread for that sort of stuff. Haven't been reading the latest posts but I think after politics, racism and religion the next topic on the agenda has to be abortion.

Masturbation is the next topic. In the light of the seven deadly sins, I was just trying to find out if it's acceptable, before I retire for the morning. I found out it is under certain circumstances.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfGfLXY2ciA

[invisiblelayer]

Sorry, I spent the last hour on the floor, paralised with laughter.

Try the Bible for inspiration? Or research some theology perhaps? FAITH is required, but the Supreme Being welcomes all who repent. That's surely the only logical conclusion from all I've seen / read / heard, Derek.

The bible was written by somebody who thought the world was flat and the centre of the universe. He was blissfully unaware that dinosaurs existed before us, other planets formed at the same time as the earth, the speed of light, length of time it takes for stars to form, etc.

The Bible is among other things, a collection of testaments from many of Jesus' apostles / disciples and followers, as even a cursory inspection would show you. I've no idea who you think 'wrote' it, but my earlier comment about some theological research of your own and some critical thinking would be a good place to start if you really are interested in forming an educated conclusion about matters of faith.

CS

Mention the Bible and you'll always be seen as a soft target. I would hit anyone with sky daddy jokes or some Hitchens/Dawkins, I hated on all religions and with every terrorist event I'd turn the screw more against all religions not just Islam. Fast forward to last Winter and now have a huge draw to the Catholic and Orthodox Church. I don't know where this will end up but it's been an experience and challenge, you'd think I should know better fast approaching 40 and life is good so why now? unfortunately it was like an itch on the back I had to keep scratching for the quest of truth and reason as a few things got me thinking after having my daughter last year. My best pal is ex Catholic and a paid up member to the Sam Harris pod so we've had some good discussions in a respectful way. Atheists believe life started from random mutations of inorganic matter to organic via an unknown process. That unknown process it's their God, it's a religion of materialism, or better known as methodological naturalism. So where do we go with things now? I don't know I'm up early in the day of rest to nail today's card on the day of rest....

[Derek27]

Mention the Bible and you'll always be seen as a soft target.

Dead right.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xxnxpy

[Crazyskier]

As I'm sure a lapsed Catholic such as yourself knows well, the laws that govern our land and much of the West, are based upon the 10 Commandments, Seven Deadly Sins and other biblical teachings. Institutions such as Holy Matrimony (marriage). Holidays based upon the birth of Christ (Christmas) 2020 years ago, and Easter (His resurrection) as well as many other festivals and celebrations. Indeed, the most popular calendar in use in the entire world is the Western Gregorian or Christian calendar from Pope Gregory XIII. Please understand I'm not a theologian by any means, just someone who has done a little research as I urge anyone to do before blindly quoting the words of others and dismissing God so casually as a 'fairytale'. The breathtaking beauty of nature, the birth of a child, the concept of love, these things can not simply be by accident? I refuse to believe it. .. But equally I respect the rights of others to choose to have faith or not as they see fit. All I ask of anyone is to look at the evidence and engage critical thinking.

Religion is a matter of personal faith and choice; one of our many freedoms here in (once-Great) Britain; but one thing's for sure, Derek: people of all faiths and those with none, each of us will eventually shrug off our mortal coils; and any modicum of doubt will be removed for eternity...

CS

Holidays (Christmas and Easter) are not based on the birth and resurrection of Christ but are actually hijacked from pagan holidays. Christmas coincides with the ancient Roman festival of Saturnalia which was held in honour of the god Saturn and was held in the week 3rd week of December. The bible offers no mention of the birth date of Christ instead it offers clues such as the shephards were keeping watch over their flocks at night. December is an unlikely time of year for sheep to be in the fields as sheep would normally be brought into shelter by the end of October at the latest in that part of the world. December 25th was also date of the winter solstice according to the Roman calendar, and it was Pope Julius 1st who set Jesus's birthday as the 25th of December and I'm not going to believe what an ancient pope has to say about anything, I've seen the Borgias. Easter is believed to be originally based on the spring solstice again a nice tie in with pagan holidays.

I must pick you up on this point Pat, that's not quite true, Christmas and Easter are indeed based upon the birth and resurrection of Christ; though I concur that the exact date of his birth is very unlikely to be 25th December and a point of much speculation by theologians. However you are quite correct when you mention the merging of certain pagan events like Saturnalia (17th December) and the Winter Solstice (around 25th Dec) with the then fast-growing Christianity, to attempt to unify the Roman Calendar of seasonal celebrations and holidays.It was actually a political move to keep support of the masses at the time. Evidently, it worked very well.

CS

[invisiblelayer]

Mention the Bible and you'll always be seen as a soft target.

Dead right.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xxnxpy

[spreadbetting]

Surely as such committed christians, gambling must be a no-no in your religions, whichever way you to try to square it.

The fact religion generally has more bearing on where you were born than the god you follow kind of puts a dampner on the one true 'God' idea. I imagine most religions have pretty much grown as they're little more than a set of morals/laws to keep the population in line and maintain order with the threat of eternal damnation.

[Trader Pat]

Surely as such committed christians, gambling must be a no-no in your religions, whichever way you to try to square it.

You would think so wouldn't you? But their generally fine with gambling if it benefits the church roof or something.

However when my mother was alive I'd bring her to mass each Sunday morning and her local church like most churches that I know of had a weekly lottery where the prize would sometimes run into the thousands! One time after the raffle hadn't been won for months and the prize was sitting at over 5 grand my mother asked a woman she knew who used to be present at the weekly draws why it hadn't been won yet. Amazingly the woman said that because so many people entered it on a weekly basis the drum they used to choose the winning ticket from wasn't big enough to fit all the entries, so they'd only enter half of the people who bought a ticket and the other half would be entered the following week

And to add an extra twist when it was eventually won the person who won it gifted half of the money back to the church! Conspiracy?!