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Kai
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trad1ngbull wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:59 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 3:48 pm
Which two sites are those ?
WhoScored and SofaScore.
I'd just like to briefly highlight that WhoScored can sometimes get it wrong too, so it's important to form your own opinions, the game tonight is maybe a good example for this.

The predicted Leeds lineup here should be wrong on WhoScored.

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Because Marcelo Bielsa strangely enough revealed his entire team in his presser yesterday, down to every position, so they have 2 kids making their debut tonight with 4 changes in total. I expect Bielsa to follow through on his word since they've done the same in the other cup as well, all they care about is the promotion.

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In any case it should be an interesting match, with Bielsa regarded by Pep as tactically the best coach in the world so it's an interesting test for his pupil Arteta.
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Kai wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:16 pm
trad1ngbull wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:59 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 3:48 pm
Which two sites are those ?
WhoScored and SofaScore.
I'd just like to briefly highlight that WhoScored can sometimes get it wrong too, so it's important to form your own opinions, the game tonight is maybe a good example for this.

The predicted Leeds lineup here should be wrong on WhoScored.

Image

Because Marcelo Bielsa strangely enough revealed his entire team in his presser yesterday, down to every position, so they have 2 kids making their debut tonight with 4 changes in total. I expect Bielsa to follow through on his word since they've done the same in the other cup as well, all they care about is the promotion.

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In any case it should be an interesting match, with Bielsa regarded by Pep as tactically the best coach in the world so it's an interesting test for his pupil Arteta.
Good info. I like the whoscored.com one for the injury news/updates.

Being a lifelong/suffering Leeds fan, you've summed it well. At least they can't take away Alan Clarke's winning header in the 1972 FA Cup final! (told you about the long suffering bit didn't I?)

There's is something different this year, the squad is more or less the same and have learned a lot from the mistakes made last year. Even recently conceding a shed loads of goals, they're picking up points along the way. They should squeak auto promotion this year...(or will my suffering continue into next year)...
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wearthefoxhat wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:11 pm
Good info. I like the whoscored.com one for the injury news/updates.

Being a lifelong/suffering Leeds fan, you've summed it well. At least they can't take away Alan Clarke's winning header in the 1972 FA Cup final! (told you about the long suffering bit didn't I?)

There's is something different this year, the squad is more or less the same and have learned a lot from the mistakes made last year. Even recently conceding a shed loads of goals, they're picking up points along the way. They should squeak auto promotion this year...(or will my suffering continue into next year)...
Don't lose hope for tonight :) I don't think this Arsenal team has the legs and the fitness to play how Arteta wants them to play just yet, some of their top players will be desperate for a rest tonight. They started well and intense in their last 2 matches against Chelsea and United but they completely ran out of steam in the 2nd halves.
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Auba rested for Arsenal but they're really going for it tonight, very strong lineup.
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Which one's the Premier league side?

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Nice smooth trading, maybe a different 2nd half.

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Master Pep will be most displeased.
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Kai wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:47 pm
Master Pep will be most displeased.
Oh crikey..spoke to soon! :?

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So Lacazette deliberately kicking an opponent and not being penalised isn't a clear and obvious error?
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wearthefoxhat wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:12 pm
Oh crikey..spoke to soon! :?
Impressive performance nevertheless, looking forward to seeing more of Leeds and Bielsa next season in the prem. Exciting times ahead for the club.
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Kai wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:53 pm
wearthefoxhat wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:12 pm
Oh crikey..spoke to soon! :?
Impressive performance nevertheless, looking forward to seeing more of Leeds and Bielsa next season in the prem. Exciting times ahead for the club.
Now they can focus on the league (been saying that for the last 16 years) :)
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Hello all,
I am a newbie here so excuse me for being naive. After researching a little and learning about sports trading I have started trading football. I was getting a few green screens finally after initial losses, but now there is another issue. My problem is a few minutes after a back bet is placed the market goes suspended and within a few minutes of a goal is scored, instead of getting a green screen I see majority of stake gone! I lost 72 pounds on Cardiff match today and after that it again happened in Juventus match. Is it just me or we all trade with this risk that a market may suddenly be unavailable? The goal by Juventus was disallowed but market continued to be suspended and after a few minutes there was another goal! I can see the match being still telecast on Betfair. How can they say they lost feed?
Is there a way to avoid this? If I put unmatched lay bets as keep will they be honoured/matched?
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shubh1807 wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:26 pm
Is there a way to avoid this?
Hi there

I assume you're talking about the disallowed Lukaku goal, not sure I remember if that was because of VAR or no but there was always a risk of Betfair losing their feed and suspending markets randomly for extended periods of time, it's something that unfortunately you have to take into account when you trade and bet on the exchange.

The introduction of VAR complicates trading a bit, because a lot of goals can be disallowed so a lot of bets can be voided too, best to get familiar with the rules : https://betting.betfair.com/betfair-ann ... 118-6.html
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Hi Kai,
Thanks for your reply, yes the goal was disallowed which was in deed good for me as I was trading unders, but then the market never returned from being suspended. And as you know after a few minutes a goal was struck. My fear is if I use larger stakes, a few minutes of unavailable markets can be horrifying! A winning trade can turn to massive loss.
Not sure if this can work: If I lay the selection say a few ticks below the back price and place both bets together, would it be any good or unmatched bets shall be cancelled once market goes suspended? I shall read the link too, but just in case you already knew this.
Thanks again
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That's why the size of your stakes and liabilities should be well inside your comfort zone, in case the worst happens and you lose them completely, but bear in mind that those situations can also lead to a big unexpected win as well, so not much to worry about over the long term if you stake sensibly, maybe it evens out more or less. But it can't even out if your whole bank gets wrecked after a few "unlucky" games.

Unmatched bets will get cancelled and returned safely, but anything that is matched will be treated as a regular bet, unless they void it. If you have a very strong case and was treated very harshly for some reason then maybe they can extend a bit of good will if you complain loud enough, otherwise they don't really care.
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Thanks a lot for a positive one! I shall try to raise it with them again.. but yes, you are right when you say be prepared to lose whatever you put down on the table..and also it all evens out in the long run.. and Finally seeing a few regular greens on the greatest sport ever is what I should cheer me up with.

I have successfully tested a few strategies and I shall try remaining positive with that.

Thanks again,
Cheers!
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