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Poor Starmer had glitter chucked over him before he started speaking. He now has to give the most important speech in his life in a dirty shirt!
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I was only half listening to Starmer's speech but I think he did pretty well, in my unbiased opinion. :)
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Starmer receiving positives from the media for keeping his cool when faced with a protestor, but in my opinion, he should have done a John Prescott and given the guy a really good smack. As a barrister, he should know his life was potentially in danger, his security were miles away. It was a free punch. :lol:
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LeTiss wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2023 5:39 pm
I'm guessing by your obsessive lefty posts over the past few months, you're probably laughing at all the Israeli deaths too.
That seems to be standard today for Labour supporters
Reports of Israeli toddlers being burned alive LeTess.

I'm guessing you think Labour supporters must be rubbing their hands with glee. :roll:
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I apologise if I caused any offence, but your post rattled my cage

I'm not Jewish or Muslim, so I don't have a vested interest as such

However, when Hamas start killing innocent young people, including kids and babies......I find that appalling

Twitter/X was full of lefties waving their Palestinian flags immediately in the aftermath, as if those deaths of children should be celebrated

Your post bugged me, because the guy complaining outside the Labour conference was disgusted at the number of Labour delegates showing absolute contempt for those dead babies & kids

So, I apologise if I took it out of context
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LeTiss wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 7:24 am
I apologise if I caused any offence, but your post rattled my cage

I'm not Jewish or Muslim, so I don't have a vested interest as such

However, when Hamas start killing innocent young people, including kids and babies......I find that appalling

Twitter/X was full of lefties waving their Palestinian flags immediately in the aftermath, as if those deaths of children should be celebrated

Your post bugged me, because the guy complaining outside the Labour conference was disgusted at the number of Labour delegates showing absolute contempt for those dead babies & kids

So, I apologise if I took it out of context
I accept your apology, but the important thing is that if a bunch of nutters celebrate grotesque events, you need to think of them as a bunch of nutters, not lefties or Labour supporters, just nutters. I'm fully behind Israel and want Hamas wiped of the face of the Earth.

As I mentioned on the jokes thread, the full extent of the humour was "why am I the only one...", I knew nothing of the context.

I would be disgusted with anyone showing contempt for dead babies & kids, but I couldn't care less about somebody complaining outside the Labour conference because he thinks that's what they're doing. Somebody complains on every street corner. :)
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Derek27 wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:22 am
I'm fully behind Israel and want Hamas wiped of the face of the Earth.
Does that include their babies and children?
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:59 am
Derek27 wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:22 am
I'm fully behind Israel and want Hamas wiped of the face of the Earth.
Does that include their babies and children?
No. If it did, I would have said, I want Hamas, their babies and children wiped off the face of the Earth, wouldn't I? :)
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Derek27 wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:19 am
firlandsfarm wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:59 am
Derek27 wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:22 am
I'm fully behind Israel and want Hamas wiped of the face of the Earth.
Does that include their babies and children?
No. If it did, I would have said, I want Hamas, their babies and children wiped off the face of the Earth, wouldn't I? :)
I don't know because you didn't clarify ... so what would you do with all the orphans you create? And what have the babies and children done to deserve going through life parentless?
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:34 am
Derek27 wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:19 am
firlandsfarm wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:59 am

Does that include their babies and children?
No. If it did, I would have said, I want Hamas, their babies and children wiped off the face of the Earth, wouldn't I? :)
I don't know because you didn't clarify ... so what would you do with all the orphans you create? And what have the babies and children done to deserve going through life parentless?
I did clarify. I said Hamas, not Hamas, their babies and children, just Hamas. A flipping four-year-old would understand the difference!

What the fuck do you mean, the orphans I create?

I said I would like Hamas wiped off the face off the Earth. Wishing they didn't exist doesn't kill anyone or create orphans!

I'm gonna have my last cigarette tonight and go to bed. Don't you have anything better to do with your time than start forum arguments, on several threads? This forum was peaceful and tranquil until you came out of your coma!
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Derek27 wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 11:38 am
firlandsfarm wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:34 am
Derek27 wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:19 am


No. If it did, I would have said, I want Hamas, their babies and children wiped off the face of the Earth, wouldn't I? :)
I don't know because you didn't clarify ... so what would you do with all the orphans you create? And what have the babies and children done to deserve going through life parentless?
I did clarify. I said Hamas, not Hamas, their babies and children, just Hamas. A flipping four-year-old would understand the difference!

What the fuck do you mean, the orphans I create?

I said I would like Hamas wiped off the face off the Earth. Wishing they didn't exist doesn't kill anyone or create orphans!

I'm gonna have my last cigarette tonight and go to bed. Don't you have anything better to do with your time than start forum arguments, on several threads? This forum was peaceful and tranquil until you came out of your coma!
I thought you went to bed!

Are you sitting comfortably? Yes? Then let me explain ...

To wipe Hamas off the Earth you will have to wipe the members of Hamas off the Earth. These people will not be going home on a Friday night vowing not to return to their role and start flying the Star of David the next day ... to wipe Hamas off the Earth you will have to exterminate them. Now it's reasonable they have families so it's reasonable that some of those families will become one-parent while other will become parentless.

Definition of Orphan: a child whose parents are dead.

Do you see the connection?

So it follows if you wipe Hamas off the face of the Earth you likewise wipe their members off the face of the Earth so many families will lose parents, some both parents.

Now as you are the one wanting Hamas wiped of the face of the Earth it is reasonable to extrapolate that it was your wishes that created the orphans.

I would suggest that even a three-year-old would understand that. :D

OK

As for me causing arguments it seem that anyone who raises alternative thought processes is causing an argument in your mind.
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 12:56 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 11:38 am
firlandsfarm wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:34 am

I don't know because you didn't clarify ... so what would you do with all the orphans you create? And what have the babies and children done to deserve going through life parentless?
I did clarify. I said Hamas, not Hamas, their babies and children, just Hamas. A flipping four-year-old would understand the difference!

What the fuck do you mean, the orphans I create?

I said I would like Hamas wiped off the face off the Earth. Wishing they didn't exist doesn't kill anyone or create orphans!

I'm gonna have my last cigarette tonight and go to bed. Don't you have anything better to do with your time than start forum arguments, on several threads? This forum was peaceful and tranquil until you came out of your coma!
I thought you went to bed!

Are you sitting comfortably? Yes? Then let me explain ...

To wipe Hamas off the Earth you will have to wipe the members of Hamas off the Earth. These people will not be going home on a Friday night vowing not to return to their role and start flying the Star of David the next day ... to wipe Hamas off the Earth you will have to exterminate them. Now it's reasonable they have families so it's reasonable that some of those families will become one-parent while other will become parentless.

Definition of Orphan: a child whose parents are dead.

Do you see the connection?

So it follows if you wipe Hamas off the face of the Earth you likewise wipe their members off the face of the Earth so many families will lose parents, some both parents.

Now as you are the one wanting Hamas wiped of the face of the Earth it is reasonable to extrapolate that it was your wishes that created the orphans.

I would suggest that even a three-year-old would understand that. :D

OK

As for me causing arguments it seem that anyone who raises alternative thought processes is causing an argument in your mind.
You claimed that I'm creating the orphans as though I'm the one who's doing the killing.

It's normal in war to create orphans. Every soldier killed potentially creates orphans. What were you expecting?
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Starmer ducking questions over his support for Corbyn when he was leader. He'd be better off just admitting it was a mistake and putting it behind him.
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Derek27 wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 6:57 pm
It's normal in war to create orphans. Every soldier killed potentially creates orphans. What were you expecting?
Fine so you agreed with me from the outset so why all the floundering opposition to my comment ... you wanted Hamas exterminated, all I said was that would create lots of orphans. You really need to be less sensitive! :D
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:40 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 6:57 pm
It's normal in war to create orphans. Every soldier killed potentially creates orphans. What were you expecting?
Fine so you agreed with me from the outset so why all the floundering opposition to my comment ... you wanted Hamas exterminated, all I said was that would create lots of orphans. You really need to be less sensitive! :D
No you flipping didn't! You said that I would create orphans!
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