Had an email from the Brexit Party saying "The first postal vote verifications from this morning indicate we are winning in key seats in the Yorkshire region".
Not sure how reliable the info is but the betting is 1.25 for 0 seats so might be worth taking it on.
General Election 2019 (UK)
- ShaunWhite
- Posts: 10497
- Joined: Sat Sep 03, 2016 3:42 am
How would they know that? I thought leaking postal vote numbers before polling day was illegal as it might influence the vote.superfrank wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2019 2:26 pmHad an email from the Brexit Party saying "The first postal vote verifications from this morning indicate we are winning in key seats in the Yorkshire region".
- ShaunWhite
- Posts: 10497
- Joined: Sat Sep 03, 2016 3:42 am
I'm not sure why anyone is voting for the BP. They won't be the majority (and they know that) and by their own ethics anyone not in the majority should be totally ignored. It doesn't make sense.
Hull East voted 72.8% in favour of leaving the EU - it is a way to protest against Labour's view on BrexitShaunWhite wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:43 pmI'm not sure why anyone is voting for the BP. They won't be the majority (and they know that) and by their own ethics anyone not in the majority should be totally ignored. It doesn't make sense.
- ShaunWhite
- Posts: 10497
- Joined: Sat Sep 03, 2016 3:42 am
Leavers have nothing at all to worry about from a second referendum if they believe the majority of people still want to leave. They'll either get the leave they want or the democracy they want, it's a win/win. New data is always better than old data so I'm sure they don't want to have a major national change based on what opinion was almost 4 years ago. You wouldn't even bet on a horse or a football match just using 4yr old data let alone something important.Naffman wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:54 pmHull East voted 72.8% in favour of leaving the EU - it is a way to protest against Labour's view on BrexitShaunWhite wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:43 pmI'm not sure why anyone is voting for the BP. They won't be the majority (and they know that) and by their own ethics anyone not in the majority should be totally ignored. It doesn't make sense.
The people at the bottom of the pile before Brexit will be the same people at the bottom of the pile after Brexit so they'll take their pick about who's historically tried to do more for them.
- ShaunWhite
- Posts: 10497
- Joined: Sat Sep 03, 2016 3:42 am
"Police launched an investigation last night into allegations that someone had broken electoral law by leaking the results of the postal ballots"superfrank wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2019 2:26 pmHad an email from the Brexit Party saying "The first postal vote verifications from this morning indicate we are winning in key seats in the Yorkshire region".
Disseminate that information is a crime too, so look out for a knock on your door.

- ShaunWhite
- Posts: 10497
- Joined: Sat Sep 03, 2016 3:42 am
He's not the one who's been taking Russian money and supporting the Russian's favored Brexit outcome.
It wouldn't be politics if the losers didn't blame Russian interferenceShaunWhite wrote: ↑Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:20 amHe's not the one who's been taking Russian money and supporting the Russian's favored Brexit outcome.
It looks like the Lib Dems have made a HUGE strategic error!
They pumped all their eggs into the "STOP BREXIT" campaign, as they thought there were 16 million losers to hoover up
However,
1) Jo Swinson isn't convincing people, or warming herself to them.
2) It's clear many remainers would rather have a 2nd referendum, or a chance to vote on the deal, as opposed to point blank stopping Brexit
3) Swinson has become so obsessed by Brexit, she has ignored other aspects of her manifesto
4) It has become clear that other aspects of everyday life is more important to many than Brexit
5) Many seem to think that Corbyn is more dangerous than Brexit, so he needs to be stopped first, not Brexit
Support for the Lib Dems has plummeted in the betting markets, and I reckon that will be reflected next Thursday
They pumped all their eggs into the "STOP BREXIT" campaign, as they thought there were 16 million losers to hoover up
However,
1) Jo Swinson isn't convincing people, or warming herself to them.
2) It's clear many remainers would rather have a 2nd referendum, or a chance to vote on the deal, as opposed to point blank stopping Brexit
3) Swinson has become so obsessed by Brexit, she has ignored other aspects of her manifesto
4) It has become clear that other aspects of everyday life is more important to many than Brexit
5) Many seem to think that Corbyn is more dangerous than Brexit, so he needs to be stopped first, not Brexit
Support for the Lib Dems has plummeted in the betting markets, and I reckon that will be reflected next Thursday
just had this shared with me - pretty catchy!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=Iw ... pp=desktop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=Iw ... pp=desktop
The odd thing about the NHS is that there is this myth around 'cuts'. But it's the most sacred part of every government since it began. The only ever cut to the NHS budget was implemented when the IMF demanded it when the nightmare of mismanaged economy of the 70's bankrupted the country. So I think that's the only thing that would make any government cut the NHS budget again.
Other than that, it's here to stay and get increased funding. But that itself is a potential problem is its risen from 2% of GDP to just under 10% since it was created. But I don't see given demographics how that is going to fall. I've no idea what the solution is, but I don't see how you let it rise in perpetuity?
One of the problems with significant government expenditure and an ageing population is that an increasing amount of the budget doesn't actually go to the front line. It ends up in the pension funding pot. So I think that's a bigger problem in time.
Other than that, it's here to stay and get increased funding. But that itself is a potential problem is its risen from 2% of GDP to just under 10% since it was created. But I don't see given demographics how that is going to fall. I've no idea what the solution is, but I don't see how you let it rise in perpetuity?
One of the problems with significant government expenditure and an ageing population is that an increasing amount of the budget doesn't actually go to the front line. It ends up in the pension funding pot. So I think that's a bigger problem in time.