Euler wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:36 pm
How much longer can OGS keep his job at United?
You wouldn't think too much longer, but then again since they haven't pulled the trigger yet, I'd have to agree with Kai, that he'll last the season. Unless the mood within the squad completely implodes.
The worst thing for me isn't even the results or their performances. More so that Ole looks so very out of his depth in what he comes out with, especially postmatch. He seems a lovely fella, but it's like they hired a 10-year-old kid to do what is very much a man's job. He's standing there, after being embassered, outplayed and most significantly outfought by Burnley, and he's weighing up every word so very carefully and looking like a deer in the headlights. "These players are going through this kind of thing for the first time, and I'll continue to support them". Or words along those lines. Very un-Mourinho of him. I cannot believe, he didn't come out swinging. Against the owners, Woodward, the fans or the players. Somebody. Anybody. At some point, since they keep laying down flat and letting teams run over them, somebody's gotta feel his boot in the arse, also publicly. Otherwise he's not man enough for the job,
Kai wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:18 am
Euler wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:36 pm
How much longer can OGS keep his job at United?
I don't see any real pressure on Ole directly, I'd imagine he goes in the summer with possibly Woodward as well, might be a huge summer of rebuilding for them.
I think this lack of transparency when it comes to the club's hierarchy suits United, as the fans don't really know who to blame for the sad state of affairs, they don't even know who's in charge of transfers etc. Reminds me of the situation at Liverpool before FSG took over, internal power struggles have left the club at the brink of administration, and from the outside it looks like there's a similar scenario currently being played at United.
But their fans are starting to catch up, first they blamed the managers (Moyes, LVG, Mourinho), then when a club legend Ole came back they started to blame Woodward, and now they're slowly starting to unite against the Glazers, yesterday the whole ground was practically on their feet when they sang "Stand up if you hate Glazers" and "We want United back".
Smells of revolution but don't think it will happen any time soon, the most likely outcome for me is that the Glazers throw Woodward under the bus to appease the fans, and then give the fans a manager they want (Poch probably). But if they keep overpaying for talent and breaking their wage structure I think they will continue to suffer, the club is still recovering from the damage that Jose did with his dealings.
I agree with your assessment by and large. A few points though.
It doesn't smell anymore of a revolution than it has quite a few years. The fans already tried to mount a revolution to no avail, with their yellow and green stuff. In the end, the fans are powerless in the modern game, unless they vote with their feet. And even that would have to be a vast, vast numbers because United are such a machine. If (some) people stay away, they'll still fill the place. My understanding is that a lot a cup matches (where season tickets do not apply) are filled to the brim with tourists/foreign fans in for a one-off. So the Glazers are holding all the aces and know so.
Maybe Poch in the summer, but he's available now, so why haven't they pulled the trigger on Ole and snapped him up before someone beats them to it? It reaks of Poch being told that Real or even PSG might be available come the end of the season, and he's let United know that's his prefered choice. So they could be left in the lurch.
I don't think that's fair on Jose. That's not me defending the current Spurs boss, as he has done nothing to earn my trust thus far. As you imply there's a systemic issue at United. They haven't signed a single player, who you'd consider a good signing since Ferguson, if you factor in value for money and the kind of player a club of United's stature should be signing. When was the last time, they signed someone "worthy"? Van Persie for me. They're recovering from everything that's happened since Fergie imho. Or trying to at least. You could argue that a summer of Maguire, AWB, and James is better than most windows, but jury's still out for me.
