General Election 2019 (UK)

[Black Ice]

Part of the answer Euler is to charge for every visit to A&E....which would cut the number of visits massively!! Trouble is there isnt a politician or party with the guts to promote the matter seriously. What is this sacred cow 'free at the point of need'? The truth is the country can no longer afford 'F@TPON'!!! Sometime...down the line..we are going to have to accept that...just like now..30 years too late...folk are waking up to the effects of climate change. Politicians..all of them ..think short-termism...noone has a long term vision...cos it wd be unpopular.

[mobius]

"How could anyone be so stupid as to not know the Queen's speech is at 3 O'Clock?"

If the queen's speech is at 3pm then.... the answer must be Americans!.jpg

They drive on the wrong side of the road too!

[LeTiss]

Four Brexit Party MEP's have quit the party, and are urging people to vote Tory next Thursday

The Brexit Party have imploded quicker than I imagined

[superfrank]

Four Brexit Party MEP's have quit the party, and are urging people to vote Tory next Thursday

The Brexit Party have imploded quicker than I imagined

Farage was caught between a rock and a hard place because of the FPTP system and the real prospect of a Corbyn led government. He put country before party - something Labour or the Tories would never dream of doing.

[greenmark]

re: continiung rises in nhs spending. Govt spending in 2018 was 18% ish of GDP. Several scandanavian countries and france spent more like 25% of GDP.
So that implies for a developed nation its a political/democratic decision about how much to spend. If we spent 25% of our 2.2 trillion GDP we'd have 154 billion extra. NHS budget is around 134 billlion.
Not saying that would be right, but the capacity is there.
Just chucking ideas around, not saying I'm right.

[Naffman]

Conservative majority one tick away from its lowest traded price - feel Brexit Party news just contributed to that for sure

[Derek27]

Part of the answer Euler is to charge for every visit to A&E....which would cut the number of visits massively!! Trouble is there isnt a politician or party with the guts to promote the matter seriously. What is this sacred cow 'free at the point of need'? The truth is the country can no longer afford 'F@TPON'!!! Sometime...down the line..we are going to have to accept that...just like now..30 years too late...folk are waking up to the effects of climate change. Politicians..all of them ..think short-termism...noone has a long term vision...cos it wd be unpopular.

If an unconscious road accident casualty gets taken to hospital, who gets charged, the casualty or person who takes him there?

[BeastofBrine]

re: continiung rises in nhs spending. Govt spending in 2018 was 18% ish of GDP. Several scandanavian countries and france spent more like 25% of GDP.
So that implies for a developed nation its a political/democratic decision about how much to spend. If we spent 25% of our 2.2 trillion GDP we'd have 154 billion extra. NHS budget is around 134 billlion.
Not saying that would be right, but the capacity is there.
Just chucking ideas around, not saying I'm right.

Interesting, Greenmark. I remembered these figures as being much higher, and looking at the OECD website (latest figures for most countries from 2017) UK spending is shown as 40.4% vs spending of circa 50% for the Scandies - https://data.oecd.org/gga/general-gover ... ending.htm

The OECD figures are given as being for 'general' government spending, and I wonder if there is some distinction between them than the numbers you gave. Where did you get yours?

[greenmark]

re: continiung rises in nhs spending. Govt spending in 2018 was 18% ish of GDP. Several scandanavian countries and france spent more like 25% of GDP.
So that implies for a developed nation its a political/democratic decision about how much to spend. If we spent 25% of our 2.2 trillion GDP we'd have 154 billion extra. NHS budget is around 134 billlion.
Not saying that would be right, but the capacity is there.
Just chucking ideas around, not saying I'm right.

Interesting, Greenmark. I remembered these figures as being much higher, and looking at the OECD website (latest figures for most countries from 2017) UK spending is shown as 40.4% vs spending of circa 50% for the Scandies - https://data.oecd.org/gga/general-gover ... ending.htm

The OECD figures are given as being for 'general' government spending, and I wonder if there is some distinction between them than the numbers you gave. Where did you get yours?

My mistake.
"Definition: General government final consumption expenditure (formerly general government consumption) includes all government current expenditures for purchases of goods and services (including compensation of employees). It also includes most expenditures on national defense and security, but excludes government military expenditures that are part of government capital formation."
https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/rankin ... ment_size/

[dragontrades]

The obvious solution to the NHS is to decrease demand by improving public health.
Too many lumps of lard waddling around the UK.

Anyway voter registration is massively up from last time around and the left have a bogeyman in Boris who they can unite against.
Would not like to be backing a Con majority at these prices.

[LeTiss]

I accept the beting prices have been proved utterly wrong in recent elections, however I have just gone through every single constituency

The Conservatives are currently trading as the favourite in 373 markets

That would give Boris a majority of 90-100 seats

[Jukebox]

I accept the beting prices have been proved utterly wrong in recent elections, however I have just gone through every single constituency

The Conservatives are currently trading as the favourite in 373 markets

That would give Boris a majority of 90-100 seats

The referendum might have been close but 52% is huge in terms of FPTP and constituencies - more than 400 constituencies voted leave.

[Naffman]

I accept the beting prices have been proved utterly wrong in recent elections, however I have just gone through every single constituency

The Conservatives are currently trading as the favourite in 373 markets

That would give Boris a majority of 90-100 seats

People laying Cons. majority just for the sake of it imo given what we have seen in the last few years.

It'll be a bloodbath for labour

[greenmark]

I accept the beting prices have been proved utterly wrong in recent elections, however I have just gone through every single constituency

The Conservatives are currently trading as the favourite in 373 markets

That would give Boris a majority of 90-100 seats

The referendum might have been close but 52% is huge in terms of FPTP and constituencies - more than 400 constituencies voted leave.

Can't let that one pass. The referendum was not FPTP. It was 52-48. Another vote could be 48-52. But democracy made it's statement and I will back that. But if democracy says 'we remain' or 'we put the agreed deal to the people' I'd go with that too. That's democracy.
In any case, even with no-deal we are faced with years of wrangling and uncertainty for businesses. This is not good capitalism.

[Jukebox]

Can't let that one pass. The referendum was not FPTP. It was 52-48. Another vote could be 48-52. But democracy made it's statement and I will back that. But if democracy says 'we remain' or 'we put the agreed deal to the people' I'd go with that too. That's democracy.
In any case, even with no-deal we are faced with years of wrangling and uncertainty for businesses. This is not good capitalism.

I wasn't making a political point and yes of course the referendum wasn't FPTP but the election is, hence my mention of the constituency breakdown.