Champions League 2012/13

[giulio2010]

Tough result for Man utd, they did not deserve the red card! I am claiming some outstanding outcomes here but, I would have prefered without red card to be honest!!

[freddy]

Roy Keane WTF are you talking about

[superfrank]

Roy Keane WTF are you talking about

bizarre that from Keane, and all the other muppets on the panel dare not oppose him.

ok, so intent has nothing to do with whether it should be a red or not. but the other player can clearly see that Nani is trying to control a high ball and put himself in the position to get hurt (ever so slightly).

bullshit decision, Keane is weird these days.

[Euler]

I'm feeling pretty deflated about that match. Was really looking forward to it and we get that! I'm really starting to dislike football.

[LeTiss]

Roy Keane "Let's be honest, Nani isn't exactly the bravest of boys"

[superfrank]

I'm feeling pretty deflated about that match. Was really looking forward to it and we get that! I'm really starting to dislike football.

that happened for me some years ago. i now watch it only occasionally and in a detached fashion. i don't even get excited about big England games now when years ago it meant almost everything.

too much money, too many foreign players, too much cheating.

[freddy]

That twit Adrian Chiles surprisingly just about summed it up for me, Massive game, great players and in the end we are talking about the Ref Grrrr .

[giulio2010]

Have you guys noticed that since Michele Platini is on the job, this kind of bullsh** are happening quite regularly!!

[Euler]

I've decided to get involved the Red Card market. I reckon it might get a bit tetchy tonight, and we all know how Mourinho loves to stoke the fires. I've just layed 1.39 for NO sending off

Amid all the fuss, great call last night.

[CaerMyrddin]

For a different view...

Rising your foot above your belly with an opponent in front of you is shown a yellow card, if you touch him you get the red one.

Of course Nani had no intention in what he did, but I bet Ramos had no intention of scoring an own goal either. Intention isn't taken in account, I'm afraid.

It was tough for Man Utd and they deserved to go through.

[superfrank]

when laws of association football were set down it was assumed that referees would interpret them in the context of a contact sport played by men (and not cheating big girl's blouses).

these days even commentators and "analysts" have been sucked into it - we forever get arguments like "was there contact?" when debating fouls and penalty claims. there is no mention of "contact" in the foul law for free kicks/penalties: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foul_%28as ... k_offences

i don't know why we ever allowed the game to be ruled by UEFA and FIFA - the sport was invented in England and should be governed from England. English referees have adapted to foreign refereeing standards instead of it being the other way round (to the detriment of the game imho).

[freddy]

For a different view...

Rising your foot above your belly with an opponent in front of you is shown a yellow card, if you touch him you get the red one.

Of course Nani had no intention in what he did, but I bet Ramos had no intention of scoring an own goal either. Intention isn't taken in account, I'm afraid.

It was tough for Man Utd and they deserved to go through.

If Intention isn't taken into account then surely all instances of foot off the ground should be a instant red card.
It's like saying you can drive down a motorway at 150mph and it's fine unless you run someone over.

Ive never seen a red card given for an attempted bicycle kick or a accidental clash of heads so why with Nanni, the rules don't mention intention no, but i'm pretty sure they were designed to be used by refs with at least some common sense .

If he had done a bicycle kick he wouldn't have been sent off, so personally i think the ref wrongly thought there was intent, hence the red card.

[CaerMyrddin]

Far enough, the bycicle kick argument was good.

But he did hit his opponent. Intention intention... It's like when a ball hits the arm of a player on the penalty kick. Even without intention, penalty kick awarded!

[freddy]

The hand ball rule can be enforced without considering intent, just like the foot up rule can be, but good ref’s will apply common sense to the situation.

Same with something like a head butt, if done with intent, then clearly it’s an instant red, But if a player throws himself at the ball and a clash of heads occurs, then neither one is getting sent off.

I agree Last nights ref hasn’t done anything wrong officially by the rules,
But imo he either made a big mistake by seeing intent where there was none or at the very least lacked the common sense needed for such a game.

[giulio2010]

For a different view...

Rising your foot above your belly with an opponent in front of you is shown a yellow card, if you touch him you get the red one.

Of course Nani had no intention in what he did, but I bet Ramos had no intention of scoring an own goal either. Intention isn't taken in account, I'm afraid.

It was tough for Man Utd and they deserved to go through.

I rewatched the game last night because I traded for 3/4 of the game so missed the spectacle! I have noticed that Man Utd goal should not be allowed. Van persie was on offside when the action started! There was a red card for Albiol when he tackled Evra. In slow motion It looked that Nani pushed his leg further into Albiol chest on purpose but you have to watch for a different angle. I am not sure the referee had the same view of the angle. There was a penalty for Real Madrid just after the sent off of Nani e there may be a penalty claim for Man utd as well on Wellbeck..Overall the referee messed the game up but in total fairness, he made more mistakes against real madrid then in favour of Real Madrid!!

i don't know why we ever allowed the game to be ruled by UEFA and FIFA - the sport was invented in England and should be governed from England. English referees have adapted to foreign refereeing standards instead of it being the other way round (to the detriment of the game imho).

The football should be ruled in fairness to all teams and countrys something that Uefa and fifa are not doing at the moment but I totally disagree that football should be governed from England! I bet the rest of world would disagree with that decision and leave England out of world football! If that would happen we would have champions league semifinals with 4 english clubs every seasons and England world cup and european cup winner every 4 years!!