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Derek27
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Interesting video about Zelenski's rise to power. If I was a Urainian I'm not sure I could bring myself to vote for a comedian, especially when he played an absent-minded president. It would be like making Lloyd Bridges US president. :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUK7RKIlyXA
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Michael Clarke explained the Russian tactics for taking ground on the battlefield. They're spearheaded by convicts and work in 4 groups of 8. The first group, known as the stormtroopers, move forward until fired upon. Then they dig for their lives and get into trenches.

The next group are known as the musicians. Even Clarke can't explain why, but the musicians move forward with their guitars and jump into the trench that the first group dug. The third and fourth groups move forward, they leapfrog each other and continue to dig trenches as they progress.

The Ukrainians who kill most of them with artillery shells say they appear to be less fearful of enemy fire than turning back to get fired on by their own troops!
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Derek27 wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:50 am
Michael Clarke explained the Russian tactics for taking ground on the battlefield. They're spearheaded by convicts and work in 4 groups of 8. The first group, known as the stormtroopers, move forward until fired upon. Then they dig for their lives and get into trenches.

The next group are known as the musicians. Even Clarke can't explain why, but the musicians move forward with their guitars and jump into the trench that the first group dug. The third and fourth groups move forward, they leapfrog each other and continue to dig trenches as they progress.

The Ukrainians who kill most of them with artillery shells say they appear to be less fearful of enemy fire than turning back to get fired on by their own troops!
:lol:
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I nearly wet myself....
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Archery1969 wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:40 pm
I nearly wet myself....
Until that child is Russian there will be no progress.
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Sorry, but i am going to say it....

Fcuk Putin, Pcuk Russia, I wish and want Russia now destroyed by the west.

Unleash absolue hell on the country. It will make me very happy.
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Archery1969 wrote:
Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:18 pm
Sorry, but i am going to say it....

Fcuk Putin, Pcuk Russia, I wish and want Russia now destroyed by the west.

Unleash absolue hell on the country. It will make me very happy.
Minus one box of whiskey in the Shelter.
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napshnap wrote:
Sat Mar 04, 2023 7:47 am
Archery1969 wrote:
Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:18 pm
Sorry, but i am going to say it....

Fcuk Putin, Pcuk Russia, I wish and want Russia now destroyed by the west.

Unleash absolue hell on the country. It will make me very happy.
Minus one box of whiskey in the Shelter.
Why take it out on 145 million people when it's the hierachy that are to blame for this awful mess?
Russians are just like us not nine-headed hydras.
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greenmark wrote:
Sat Mar 04, 2023 9:08 am
napshnap wrote:
Sat Mar 04, 2023 7:47 am
Archery1969 wrote:
Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:18 pm
Sorry, but i am going to say it....

Fcuk Putin, Pcuk Russia, I wish and want Russia now destroyed by the west.

Unleash absolue hell on the country. It will make me very happy.
Minus one box of whiskey in the Shelter.
Why take it out on 145 million people when it's the hierachy that are to blame for this awful mess?
Russians are just like us not nine-headed hydras.
Who are the ones actually pulling the trigger ?

They have a choice and can disobey orders.
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napshnap wrote:
Sat Mar 04, 2023 7:47 am
Archery1969 wrote:
Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:18 pm
Sorry, but i am going to say it....

Fcuk Putin, Pcuk Russia, I wish and want Russia now destroyed by the west.

Unleash absolue hell on the country. It will make me very happy.
Minus one box of whiskey in the Shelter.
:lol:
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Archery1969 wrote:
Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:48 pm
greenmark wrote:
Sat Mar 04, 2023 9:08 am
napshnap wrote:
Sat Mar 04, 2023 7:47 am


Minus one box of whiskey in the Shelter.
Why take it out on 145 million people when it's the hierachy that are to blame for this awful mess?
Russians are just like us not nine-headed hydras.
Who are the ones actually pulling the trigger ?

They have a choice and can disobey orders.
They can't, they'll get shot in the back.
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Derek27 wrote:
Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:51 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:48 pm
greenmark wrote:
Sat Mar 04, 2023 9:08 am

Why take it out on 145 million people when it's the hierachy that are to blame for this awful mess?
Russians are just like us not nine-headed hydras.
Who are the ones actually pulling the trigger ?

They have a choice and can disobey orders.
They can't, they'll get shot in the back.
That’s not a good enough argument Derek. They out number their commanders. They could just shoot them and go home.
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Archery1969 wrote:
Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:52 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:51 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:48 pm


Who are the ones actually pulling the trigger ?

They have a choice and can disobey orders.
They can't, they'll get shot in the back.
That’s not a good enough argument Derek. They out number their commanders. They could just shoot them and go home.
The difficulty would be organising a simultaneous attack. Who would be the first to fire and sacrifice himself? Will his fellow conscripts support him?
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Derek27 wrote:
Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:55 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:52 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:51 pm


They can't, they'll get shot in the back.
That’s not a good enough argument Derek. They out number their commanders. They could just shoot them and go home.
The difficulty would be organising a simultaneous attack. Who would be the first to fire and sacrifice himself? Will his fellow conscripts support him?
Back in May 2022 a tank commander ran over his boss and dissappeard tank and all. So it’s doable. 🤠
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Archery1969 wrote:
Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:48 pm
greenmark wrote:
Sat Mar 04, 2023 9:08 am
napshnap wrote:
Sat Mar 04, 2023 7:47 am


Minus one box of whiskey in the Shelter.
Why take it out on 145 million people when it's the hierachy that are to blame for this awful mess?
Russians are just like us not nine-headed hydras.
Who are the ones actually pulling the trigger ?

They have a choice and can disobey orders.
You have got be kidding! With a dictator that has survived a decade and swivelled the constitution to keep him in power as long as he likes, who is going to depose him.
Dissenters (including pop groups FFS) get locked up/poisoned.
Putin is a nasty human. He does not represent Russians IMO.
He deposed Medvedev, imprisoned Navalny and appears to have iron control of Russia's hierachy.
His value to the world is "how not to run a country".
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