Today's Horse Racing

[ShaunWhite]

The problem with his view is that it doesn't correlate with the GC announcemts, volume has and always will track disposable income. It would be absolutely unfathamble if volume was level or up given the economic climate. The GC and checks are an easy answer but not the whole one.

[Emmson]

Being a LURKER on Twit I just came across it and thought I will post it here whether I agree with it or not, though I do agree with his point about why the exchange won't be sold by Flutter.

[arbitrage16]

The problem with his view is that it doesn't correlate with the GC announcemts, volume has and always will track disposable income. It would be absolutely unfathamble if volume was level or up given the economic climate. The GC and checks are an easy answer but not the whole one.

Have you got the data about the number of bets being made? I seem to recall you mentioning a while back that this data was holding steady, wonder if that's still true.

[Bobajob]

If you are "retired" and you can make £10/hr ( minimum wage) to top up your pension and pay for a few more luxuries/holidays then the only thing you are going to be worried about is will it last another 10 years.

I 'retired' at 50 (9yrs ago) but it doesn't mean I've only got 10 yrs left or no longer have any ambition.

In that case you've only got seven years to go before you get your 'Triple locked" pension.
Every cloud has a silver lining, so they say

[ShaunWhite]

Have you got the data about the number of bets being made? I seem to recall you mentioning a while back that this data was holding steady, wonder if that's still true.

I'll get back to you but I think so. It's an approximation. You don't get the level 2 order book to see the individual matches so it's just a count of market change messages, and when it's busy they might be the result of multiple matches. "busy" that would be nice.

[Euler]

Good day of racing is Australia today, followed up by some quality in the UK. Good few weeks ahead.

[Simoba]

I love flat racing but I think Jumps should be banned (unpopular opinion I know), I not only find it unwatchable due to the falls but the amount of casualties is shocking tbh. Lowering the number in the GN makes no difference to me so I imagine it won't to anyone else, especially the RSPCA etc.

100% agree. Totally unnecessary levels of risk for the sake of entertainment.

Also agree with that sentiment. I saw a fatality right in front of me when I went NH racing once, never been back, was truly awful. I doubt it will ever be banned, too much money involved at the top end.

[Crazyskier]

If you are "retired" and you can make £10/hr ( minimum wage) to top up your pension and pay for a few more luxuries/holidays then the only thing you are going to be worried about is will it last another 10 years.

I 'retired' at 50 (9yrs ago) but it doesn't mean I've only got 10 yrs left or no longer have any ambition.

In that case you've only got seven years to go before you get your 'Triple locked" pension.
Every cloud has a silver lining, so they say

Actually the low down is that the Tories are about to extend this to 67. Tragically, as I'm also in that bracket.

CS

[Bobajob]

I 'retired' at 50 (9yrs ago) but it doesn't mean I've only got 10 yrs left or no longer have any ambition.

In that case you've only got seven years to go before you get your 'Triple locked" pension.
Every cloud has a silver lining, so they say

Actually the low down is that the Tories are about to extend this to 67. Tragically, as I'm also in that bracket.

CS

There will be "riots" if they try and do that

[Crazyskier]

In that case you've only got seven years to go before you get your 'Triple locked" pension.
Every cloud has a silver lining, so they say

Actually the low down is that the Tories are about to extend this to 68. Tragically, as I'm also in that bracket.

CS

There will be "riots" if they try and do that

Unlikely. They have already confirmed that they are looking into it. Sadly. 67 was confirmed in March and depending on a number of factors, 68 could be the pensionable age soon.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/stat ... enerations.

CS

[Michael5482]

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Decreasing at an alarming rate, and with winter jumps/AW coming up

I agree in the main with the Grand National changes going forward they've just announced

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/horse-racing/67078770

The only issue I do have is already the animal rights people are straight on it with the "it doesn't go far enough" Racing needs to stop justifying itself to these people there's no need to, they shouldn't be given the time of day from racing but they somehow have some misguided logic that by appeasing them will they will go away.

And Frankie is no longer retiring who'd have guessed that! Wouldn't be surprised to see him on some big rides in the UK next year either.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/horse-racing/67008163

I love flat racing but I think Jumps should be banned (unpopular opinion I know), I not only find it unwatchable due to the falls but the amount of casualties is shocking tbh. Lowering the number in the GN makes no difference to me so I imagine it won't to anyone else, especially the RSPCA etc.

I've no issue with your view you've choose not to watch it and understand your reasoning. What I have issue with is people trying to force views/trying to ban it onto others who enjoy it. It's a legal legitimate sport , there's a very clear choice you either accept the risk that horses are fatally injured or you don't and with that comes not watching it, not going to a track, not betting on it and leaving those that accept the risk to enjoy it.

Horses die on the flat I recall Coribus for Godolphin on the flat last year/year before that was as bad as a jumps fall however I accept that jumps fatalities are more than on the flat.

I'm comfortable with it whilst sad that horses pass away on race tracks I've visited race yards (Michael Dods & Rebeca Menzies) and seen the care these animals get they love to race especially each other and jump it's in their blood and absolutely everything is done to keep them safe where possible but there's always risk no matter the code it's an individual thing.

There is a line where changes are made to appease people who'll never be appeased and that is maybe where racing is.

[firlandsfarm]

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I've done them since going back to 2019 and it's the same rate of decline.

Yes, sorry I forgot those graphs ... and yes, the decline is roughly equal. Interesting how the in-running volume increases in the jumps season ... longer races the cause?

[ShaunWhite]

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I've done them since going back to 2019 and it's the same rate of decline.

Yes, sorry I forgot those graphs ... and yes, the decline is roughly equal. Interesting how the in-running volume increases in the jumps season ... longer races the cause?

Longer races and easier money. The winter races are more volatile due to the jeopardy. It only takes a good or poor jump and the punters/stoplossers overreact.

[welshbeef]

No silks showing on Bet Angel or is it just me?

[Dallas]

No silks showing on Bet Angel or is it just me?

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