Champions League 2012/13

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superfrank
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giulio2010 wrote:...I totally disagree that football should be governed from England! I bet the rest of world would disagree with that decision and leave England out of world football! If that would happen we would have champions league semifinals with 4 english clubs every seasons and England world cup and european cup winner every 4 years!!
ah, well that's where you are wrong. if the game from run from Italy then Italian sides probably would be favoured, because Italy is a corrupt country.

what has often set Britain aside from other countries in the past is our strong, uncorrupted, institutions. it may not be what it once was, but British fair-play is a thing to be admired. there is a reason that many countries in the world are shitholes (like much of Eastern Europe, Africa and the Middle East), it is because they are corrupt (culturally it's in their nature).
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giulio2010 wrote: In slow motion It looked that Nani pushed his leg further into Albiol chest on purpose but you have to watch for a different angle.
I ve seen all the replay angles and I have no idea what you are seeing to be honest,
He wasn’t pushing his leg in more, momentum was just taking him around and away from Albiol.
it’s just simple physics.
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superfrank wrote:ah, well that's where you are wrong. if the game from run from Italy then Italian sides probably would be favoured, because Italy is a corrupt country.
That's where you are wrong, I did not claim that football should be governed by ITALY. I know we have corruption problems but Britain has it as well!! Saying that Britain is uncorrupted is bit out of the reality!
If I choose a country it would be switzerland, denmark, norway, finland, sweden, luxembourg!! Not England!
Britain was a better country from 1900 to 1950 but after that things have changed for you as well!!
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i didn't say that Britain is not corrupt, but Italy is probably more corrupt than the UK on balance. i have nothing against Italy, in many ways it's the most beautiful country in the world, and the Roman's brought civilisation to Britain.

this is quite interesting... http://www.transparency.org/cpi2012/results
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freddy wrote:
giulio2010 wrote: In slow motion It looked that Nani pushed his leg further into Albiol chest on purpose but you have to watch for a different angle.
I ve seen all the replay angles and I have no idea what you are seeing to be honest,
He wasn’t pushing his leg in more, momentum was just taking him around and away from Albiol.
it’s just simple physics.
was a yellow for me, red was very harsh, nani does do a little kick out thou after the first contact
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And that's from a City fan! :lol: :)

Jeff
mcfc1981 wrote: was a yellow for me, red was very harsh, nani does do a little kick out thou after the first contact
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I have claimed last night that the red card was unfair. I rewachted the game and changed my mind. I have also changed my mind on the fact that Man utd even with 10 men should have done better. Chelsea did it last year against a stronger opponent and on the away ground.. Perhaps man utd players and Fergusson have some responsabilities on last night defeat not just the referee !!
P.S. I will post more pictures in less the 10 minutes!
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giulio2010 wrote: In slow motion It looked that Nani pushed his leg further into Albiol chest on purpose but you have to watch for a different angle.
I ve seen all the replay angles and I have no idea what you are seeing to be honest,
He wasn’t pushing his leg in more, momentum was just taking him around and away from Albiol.
it’s just simple physics.
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its not an absolute howler like utd and the press are making out thou, nani gave the ref the option to send him off once he did the thrust out once contact was made.
think nani knew he could be in trouble reason he lay about on the floor injured.
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giulio2010 wrote:I have claimed last night that the red card was unfair. I rewachted the game and changed my mind. I have also changed my mind on the fact that Man utd even with 10 men should have done better. Chelsea did it last year against a stronger opponent and on the away ground.. Perhaps man utd players and Fergusson have some responsabilities on last night defeat not just the referee !!
P.S. I will post more pictures in less the 10 minutes!
freddy wrote:
giulio2010 wrote: In slow motion It looked that Nani pushed his leg further into Albiol chest on purpose but you have to watch for a different angle.
I ve seen all the replay angles and I have no idea what you are seeing to be honest,
He wasn’t pushing his leg in more, momentum was just taking him around and away from Albiol.
it’s just simple physics.
Again simple Physics, he bends his knee on or before impact and is spun around with the momentum.

All perfectly normal reactions he's pulling out of the tackle, if he would have kept his leg straight he wouldn't have been.
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Whether the referee made a mistake or not, Nani needs to man up and admit that he did something that needlessly ran the risk of being red carded.

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Ferru123 wrote:Whether the referee made a mistake or not, Nani needs to man up and admit that he did something that needlessly ran the risk of being red carded.

Jeff
what like trying to control a high ball with his foot!!!

Real's goalkeeper punched Vidic in the face by accident as Vidic was going for a header and he was trying to punch the ball away. penalty and sending off? of course not, it was an accident and there was no intent to hurt Vidic.

you can't apply the letter of the law (which is intended to be applied with discretion) in one instance and not the other.
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Anyone would have done the same Jeff, he would have been crucified by the manager for not going for a 50-50 ball.
Do you want a game where no one ever attempts a volley or a bicycle kick or even a header in fear of being sent off.
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As a professional footballer, Nani should know the rules of the game, and should have realised that the ref might act like a jobsworth parking warden when it came to applying the rules...

Maybe the ref was an idiot, but rather than make excuses players should avoid giving the ref an excuse to wave their card.

Gary Linekar managed to go through his entire career without picking up so much as a single yellow card...

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superfrank wrote: you can't apply the letter of the law (which is intended to be applied with discretion) in one instance and not the other.
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Send him off Jeff ;) what a Fool, he should know the rules :lol:
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Nani did nothing illegal, he just tried to control a high ball with his foot and the other player came from miles away to challenge him as he did so. if the other player got hurt in doing so that's his fault. not even a free-kick in my book.

if a defender is going the clear the ball and a striker throws his head at it and gets kicked in the face then it's the forward's fault.

by your definition every overhead kick is illegal (just in case someone challenges for the ball as the player is in mid-air).
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