Happy Flat Season Day!
Today's Horse Racing
- jamesedwards
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First turf flat meeting of the season today at The Curragh.
Happy Flat Season Day!

Happy Flat Season Day!
- ShaunWhite
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The blud doesn't know that greyhound racing also exists
- jamesedwards
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I've been monitoring this for a while now and distances between final obstacle and finish line often will move meeting to meeting. Hurdles more often, but sometimes fences as well on the courses that have mobile fencing.jamesedwards wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 2:23 pmIt seems that hurdles are moved more commonly than perhaps thought. I've seen several instances in the last week where the distance between final hurdle and the finish line has been moved significantly from card to card.jamesedwards wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 2:24 pmHow often, if at all, do UK/Ire race courses adjust the distance between the final obstacle and the finish line?
Does anyone know of anywhere online that lists these distances and/or changes by card?
Often it's only 1 or 2 tenths of a furlong, but sometimes the change can be extreme. eg Haydock yesterday was 1.6f compared to 0.8f at the previous meeting.
It seems crazy that there appears to be no control, info, or record of historical or planned position of obstacles. Is there really nowhere online that documents these moves?
jamesedwards wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 3:04 pmI've been monitoring this for a while now and distances between final obstacle and finish line often will move meeting to meeting. Hurdles more often, but sometimes fences as well on the courses that have mobile fencing.jamesedwards wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 2:23 pmIt seems that hurdles are moved more commonly than perhaps thought. I've seen several instances in the last week where the distance between final hurdle and the finish line has been moved significantly from card to card.jamesedwards wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 2:24 pmHow often, if at all, do UK/Ire race courses adjust the distance between the final obstacle and the finish line?
Does anyone know of anywhere online that lists these distances and/or changes by card?
Often it's only 1 or 2 tenths of a furlong, but sometimes the change can be extreme. eg Haydock yesterday was 1.6f compared to 0.8f at the previous meeting.
It seems crazy that there appears to be no control, info, or record of historical or planned position of obstacles. Is there really nowhere online that documents these moves?
What's the reason for doing this?
If it has to do with low sun it would be an ad hoc decision and not announced anyway.
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It's planned in advance, probably to do with protecting pieces of ground. If you have horses taking off and landing in the same place all the time it takes its toll.Sonny wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 3:11 pmjamesedwards wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 3:04 pmI've been monitoring this for a while now and distances between final obstacle and finish line often will move meeting to meeting. Hurdles more often, but sometimes fences as well on the courses that have mobile fencing.jamesedwards wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 2:23 pm
It seems that hurdles are moved more commonly than perhaps thought. I've seen several instances in the last week where the distance between final hurdle and the finish line has been moved significantly from card to card.
Does anyone know of anywhere online that lists these distances and/or changes by card?
Often it's only 1 or 2 tenths of a furlong, but sometimes the change can be extreme. eg Haydock yesterday was 1.6f compared to 0.8f at the previous meeting.
It seems crazy that there appears to be no control, info, or record of historical or planned position of obstacles. Is there really nowhere online that documents these moves?
What's the reason for doing this?
If it has to do with low sun it would be an ad hoc decision and not announced anyway.
It makes sense that they do it, but not that there appears to be no documented auditing or regulation.
Yeah okay, makes sense.jamesedwards wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 3:15 pmIt's planned in advance, probably to do with protecting pieces of ground. If you have horses taking off and landing in the same place all the time it takes its toll.Sonny wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 3:11 pmjamesedwards wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 3:04 pm
I've been monitoring this for a while now and distances between final obstacle and finish line often will move meeting to meeting. Hurdles more often, but sometimes fences as well on the courses that have mobile fencing.
Often it's only 1 or 2 tenths of a furlong, but sometimes the change can be extreme. eg Haydock yesterday was 1.6f compared to 0.8f at the previous meeting.
It seems crazy that there appears to be no control, info, or record of historical or planned position of obstacles. Is there really nowhere online that documents these moves?
What's the reason for doing this?
If it has to do with low sun it would be an ad hoc decision and not announced anyway.
It makes sense that they do it, but not that there appears to be no documented auditing or regulation.
(The moving not the non-announcing)
Hm... I didnt know that they tend to move the ladt hurdle, i know maybe this will sound silly but does horses then fall more often ??? If i know animals correctly they know to remember quite well patterns, time, where should be a food etc... And they are really precise in this stuffs. Here is the example of a monkey that can put number in correct order in less then a second
https://youtu.be/ravykEih1rE?si=AjIC8-CEQvDuOPGx
https://youtu.be/ravykEih1rE?si=AjIC8-CEQvDuOPGx
- jamesedwards
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Last obstacle movements today:
Newbury hurdle moved forward to 1.6f from 1.1f previously.
Ffos Las hurdle moved forward to 1.1f from 1.0f previously.
Musselburgh no change
Newbury hurdle moved forward to 1.6f from 1.1f previously.
Ffos Las hurdle moved forward to 1.1f from 1.0f previously.
Musselburgh no change
Wolverhampton 18:30
I think people relied too heavily on TPD here:
Ray Gun looked going alright and came from behind, but not once actually led the field and lost by a nose.
I think people relied too heavily on TPD here:
Ray Gun looked going alright and came from behind, but not once actually led the field and lost by a nose.
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