US Presidential Election 2020

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Derek27
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knightwire2 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:52 pm
Trader Pat wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:44 pm
jamesg46 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:12 pm

To back up that you're right Pat and I am indeed a conspiracy theorist here is me and Congress spewing the same conspiracy.

https://youtu.be/EXminByXWq4

You'll notice that dead people did vote and people voted twice... its a fact, not a conspiracy.

I know it's longer than a Tik Tok video but I'm sure you'll manage 8 mins.
Ok....

As for ballots being pulled from under the table thats standard counting procedure... don't take my word for it here's a tweet from the Georgia VSI manager. Who by the way is a Republican:

https://twitter.com/GabrielSterling/sta ... 33217?s=20


As for the dead voting there were 2 votes attributed to dead people not 5000 like Trump claimed. That's verified by Raffensperger again a Republican.

As for voters from other states there were none. Confirmed by Ryan Germany who I think was on the call.

People voting twice there were 1000 confirmed cases according to Raffensperger but he said he believed the vast majority or them were errors and not a deliberate attempt to vote twice. He went on to say that all of them will be investigated with potential criminal charges for those who intended to play the system. All of the 1000 votes are void and the real kicker most of the votes were cast for Republlican candidates probably because Trump called on voters to vote twice.

The spike in votes for Biden when Trump got none was a data entry error apparently so I'll give you that one.

As for congress agreeing with you 1 Republican member of congress is not Congress as a whole.
Pat you're quoting confirmations from people who are controlled by the deep state. Therefore they lie. Their lies are being exposed. Whatever Battenbumburger says is basically horse shit. Whether they are Republican or Democrat is of absolutely no significance whatsoever. Both parties are heavily corrupted and blackmailed by the deep state. They just give us the illusions that they are two separate parties. They arent. Many republicans are just as compromised. Trump is letting this whole thing play out to expose as many corrupt individuals as possible, in order to "drain the swamp" - which is EXACTLY what he said he would do when he came to office back in 2016. See, everything is going EXACTLY according to plan :-)
There's only one person on here talking horse shit! Instead of saying, they lie, their lies are being exposed, say what the lie was or where it's been exposed. If you don't substantiate all this bullshit nobody will take any notice of it.
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only 49 minutes to go now chaps before we know which ones of us are right, which ones of us are deluded, and which ones stand to make over £100k from our research! (i really dont like rubbing it in, but, to be honest, some of you are so closed minded you do partly deserve it lol)

Im getting the popcorn ready....
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knightwire2 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:55 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:51 pm
Kai wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:48 pm


Derek, surely if you're going to argue so strongly against his opinion then you must carefully analyze his 3 hour Youtube video evidence first, along with any other video evidence he posted after that.
Surely if you're going to post a 3-hour video as evidence you should give a brief summary of what it's about. Given that he thinks a photograph of a bin bag full of litter is proof of election fraud I think I can safely dismiss it as a waste of time. :)
Derek, how about i turn this around... why dont YOU show ME one piece of "evidence" that Biden has won? (other than what main stream media reports, as that is not evidence, thats just propaganda).

Dont worry, i'll wait... :-)
The results have come directly from election officials and the Supreme Court and lower courts have rejected every legal action to the contary.
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To the established members of the forum - Let me know when you have had enough.
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knightwire2 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:59 pm
Euler wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:55 pm
Serious question here knightwire2. How much did you lose betting on the Trump next president market?
If Betfair refuse to pay out when Trump wins, i'll lose £5300

But im hopeful they will do the right thing. Apparently they made exactly the same mistake in the 2016 election, and ended up having to pay both sides, so im not overly worried.

And i wouldnt have put £5300 unless i was absolutely certain he was going to win :-)

Currently waiting for another small lay bet on the 2021 Exit Date to be taken
Why a small lay bet when you're so certain he's going to win? I can assure you that they will do the right thing, actually, they've already done it. It's in your own best interest that you come to terms with the fact that you're bet lost and you won't be getting anything back. The longer you stay in denial the harder it will be when you finally realise the money's gone into the pockets of Biden backers and other traders. ;)
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Derek27 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:13 pm
knightwire2 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:52 pm
Trader Pat wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:44 pm


Ok....

As for ballots being pulled from under the table thats standard counting procedure... don't take my word for it here's a tweet from the Georgia VSI manager. Who by the way is a Republican:

https://twitter.com/GabrielSterling/sta ... 33217?s=20


As for the dead voting there were 2 votes attributed to dead people not 5000 like Trump claimed. That's verified by Raffensperger again a Republican.

As for voters from other states there were none. Confirmed by Ryan Germany who I think was on the call.

People voting twice there were 1000 confirmed cases according to Raffensperger but he said he believed the vast majority or them were errors and not a deliberate attempt to vote twice. He went on to say that all of them will be investigated with potential criminal charges for those who intended to play the system. All of the 1000 votes are void and the real kicker most of the votes were cast for Republlican candidates probably because Trump called on voters to vote twice.

The spike in votes for Biden when Trump got none was a data entry error apparently so I'll give you that one.

As for congress agreeing with you 1 Republican member of congress is not Congress as a whole.
Pat you're quoting confirmations from people who are controlled by the deep state. Therefore they lie. Their lies are being exposed. Whatever Battenbumburger says is basically horse shit. Whether they are Republican or Democrat is of absolutely no significance whatsoever. Both parties are heavily corrupted and blackmailed by the deep state. They just give us the illusions that they are two separate parties. They arent. Many republicans are just as compromised. Trump is letting this whole thing play out to expose as many corrupt individuals as possible, in order to "drain the swamp" - which is EXACTLY what he said he would do when he came to office back in 2016. See, everything is going EXACTLY according to plan :-)
There's only one person on here talking horse shit! Instead of saying, they lie, their lies are being exposed, say what the lie was or where it's been exposed. If you don't substantiate all this bullshit nobody will take any notice of it.
Derek im not here to do your research for you! Im voicing my opinion, you can either choose to disagree or not, its your choice. As a punter, its all up to us to do our own research before placing our money. If you look back over my posts i have offered substantial content to my beliefs, and why i believe what i do. Ive offered links etc. You have chosen not to look. I guess because you simply cant be bothered. Fine, thats yorur choice. But like i said, im not here to do your research for you. And so far you havent substantiated a single thing you have claimed anyway. Have a good day - the show is going to start shortly!
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Derek27 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:19 pm
knightwire2 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:55 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:51 pm

Surely if you're going to post a 3-hour video as evidence you should give a brief summary of what it's about. Given that he thinks a photograph of a bin bag full of litter is proof of election fraud I think I can safely dismiss it as a waste of time. :)
Derek, how about i turn this around... why dont YOU show ME one piece of "evidence" that Biden has won? (other than what main stream media reports, as that is not evidence, thats just propaganda).

Dont worry, i'll wait... :-)
The results have come directly from election officials and the Supreme Court and lower courts have rejected every legal action to the contary.
who gets to CERTIFY the election Derek? In case you hadnt yet realised, that is what is happening TODAY. This may be difficult to understand but... the election, as of this precise moment, has yet to be officially certified either way.
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knightwire2 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:02 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:53 pm
knightwire2 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:10 pm
Who exactly has "debunked" them Pat? Main stream media? LOL
If you have a brain you would focus on what was proven, not who proved it!! You would believe 1+1 is not equal to 2 if mainstream media said it!
and do tell me Derek, what EXACTLY has thus been proven? Certainly there is no proof whatsoever that Biden won anything at all. That will hopefully all come out today though!
If you're capable of adding up you can count the official projected electoral college votes which gives you the winner. Usually that's the end of the election and Betfair payout shortly afterwards. It's just this year with a big overgrown cry-baby as outgoing president that has delayed things.
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Derek27 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:22 pm
knightwire2 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:59 pm
Euler wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:55 pm
Serious question here knightwire2. How much did you lose betting on the Trump next president market?
If Betfair refuse to pay out when Trump wins, i'll lose £5300

But im hopeful they will do the right thing. Apparently they made exactly the same mistake in the 2016 election, and ended up having to pay both sides, so im not overly worried.

And i wouldnt have put £5300 unless i was absolutely certain he was going to win :-)

Currently waiting for another small lay bet on the 2021 Exit Date to be taken
Why a small lay bet when you're so certain he's going to win? I can assure you that they will do the right thing, actually, they've already done it. It's in your own best interest that you come to terms with the fact that you're bet lost and you won't be getting anything back. The longer you stay in denial the harder it will be when you finally realise the money's gone into the pockets of Biden backers and other traders. ;)
its small in comparison to my last bet, but its still considerable enough. and its all i can get my hands on right now! And im guessing that , seeing how confident you are that Biden will win, youve puts tonnes of money down on BACKING the Trump Exit Date AS 2021?

You guys make me laugh. You are all going to be in for such a wake up call over the next few days and weeks, when it is revealed what has really been going on these last few months. You guys might want to be sure you are in the 'sitting position' when it all starts to come out. :-)
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Derek27 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:29 pm
knightwire2 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:02 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:53 pm

If you have a brain you would focus on what was proven, not who proved it!! You would believe 1+1 is not equal to 2 if mainstream media said it!
and do tell me Derek, what EXACTLY has thus been proven? Certainly there is no proof whatsoever that Biden won anything at all. That will hopefully all come out today though!
If you're capable of adding up you can count the official projected electoral college votes which gives you the winner. Usually that's the end of the election and Betfair payout shortly afterwards. It's just this year with a big overgrown cry-baby as outgoing president that has delayed things.
do you know what the word "projected" means Derek? Its like a prediction. Nothing more :-)
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if anyone is watching the trump *rally* on youtube, it's VERY entertaining... i've really missed live standup!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ht20eDY ... take%3ANow
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knightwire2 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:09 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:03 pm
knightwire2 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:17 pm


Derek do try to pay attention. Euler said "I linked to that article because my guy, who works in the legislature in Washingston" . Maybe you didnt have your glasses on? So it looks like you are the one talking out your ass. The people who i listen to are far higher up the food chain. They are on youtube , if you ever bother to look. Which, because you dont like doing actual research, somehow, i doubt you will!
No, you're the one who's not paying attention, in need of glasses and talking through you're arse. The legislature is not a position, it's a department, so you can't say your imaginary contacts are higher up. How high up are they in the food chain? Do they manufacture baked beans or do they organise the delivery to supermarkets? :lol:

When I said you talk through your arse I was referring to making claims like "higher up" or "far higher up the food chain". Higher up than who? What's their position? You can't even answer simple questions yet you expect people to waste 3 hours watching your videos!
i just told you Derek! For some reason you dont seem to want to actually READ what i say?! Military Intelligence drops , Derek. When law of the land fails, guess who has the authority to take over? Yep. The Military. So i listen to them (amongst MANY others). Not to any possibly corrupt goverment official or department. So ive answered your simple question. No doubt youll ask me the same simple question again in a few minutes? This is like Groundhog Day....
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:34 pm
OMG a thousand youtube videos! I prefer to listen to those who decode military intelligence drops than listen to someone who listens to CNN! :-)
You said that to Dallas, not me, and when I asked you ignored the question so there's no way of knowing what you're talking about. When it comes to decoding military intelligence it's quite easy to mistake a sandwich list for a list of countries that are going to be bombed, in fact, you could easily make up your own code. But as I said, I get my information from big chief, ruler of the universe so he's much higher than your guys who eaves-drop on conversations. :)
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knightwire2 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:17 pm
only 49 minutes to go now chaps before we know which ones of us are right, which ones of us are deluded, and which ones stand to make over £100k from our research! (i really dont like rubbing it in, but, to be honest, some of you are so closed minded you do partly deserve it lol)

Im getting the popcorn ready....
No, there are zero minutes left for us - we already know. But there are or were 49 minutes left for you to find out. Sorry about your Lambo. :)
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Trader Pat wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:44 pm
jamesg46 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:12 pm

To back up that you're right Pat and I am indeed a conspiracy theorist here is me and Congress spewing the same conspiracy.

https://youtu.be/EXminByXWq4

You'll notice that dead people did vote and people voted twice... its a fact, not a conspiracy.

I know it's longer than a Tik Tok video but I'm sure you'll manage 8 mins.
Ok....

As for ballots being pulled from under the table thats standard counting procedure... don't take my word for it here's a tweet from the Georgia VSI manager. Who by the way is a Republican:

https://twitter.com/GabrielSterling/sta ... 33217?s=20


As for the dead voting there were 2 votes attributed to dead people not 5000 like Trump claimed. That's verified by Raffensperger again a Republican.

As for voters from other states there were none. Confirmed by Ryan Germany who I think was on the call.

People voting twice there were 1000 confirmed cases according to Raffensperger but he said he believed the vast majority or them were errors and not a deliberate attempt to vote twice. He went on to say that all of them will be investigated with potential criminal charges for those who intended to play the system. All of the 1000 votes are void and the real kicker most of the votes were cast for Republlican candidates probably because Trump called on voters to vote twice.

The spike in votes for Biden when Trump got none was a data entry error apparently so I'll give you that one.

As for congress agreeing with you 1 Republican member of congress is not Congress as a whole.
Heres a few more Senators that are conspiracy theorists.

https://youtu.be/fq8OPTIEf2U

The ending to my original comment was that I thought it should be pointed out so it can be fixed moving forward, which I think is reasonable regardless of which side of the Isle people are on. Simply denying it hasn't happened or doesn't exist doesn't really make sense to me.

I guess what really matters is which one was rigged, the 2016 or the 2020 & by whome, was it the Russians again? Was it conspiracy to say the 2016 was rigged or is only if you think it only happend in this election?

To be clear, I think fraud probably happens in every election, in lots of countries but each time its brought up by one side the other shouts conspiracy and thats both ways.
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