General Election 2019 (UK)

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Euler
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My advice for trading these markets is to put your views behind you and trade what you see. It's hard but I think that's why these markets are good trading markets.

I've been watching some of the betting pundits and their summaries just ooze bias. I guess it's like trying to trade your own team. Tough to be completely objective.
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Euler wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:29 pm
My advice for trading these markets is to put your views behind you and trade what you see. It's hard but I think that's why these markets are good trading markets.

I've been watching some of the betting pundits and their summaries just ooze bias. I guess it's like trying to trade your own team. Tough to be completely objective.
Well done putting us back on topic. Would love some insight into what you're "seeing." I haven't delved to deeply but it seems to me that a Tory landslide is somewhat overrated.
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2 party politics didn't take long to come back from the grave.

(Poll of Polls, today)
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Jo Swinson has drifted from 1.18 to 1.43 to win her own constituency

The Lib Dems are looking set for a bad GE
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superfrank wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:47 am


How Britain voted at the 2017 general election
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/ar ... l-election - 64% of students voted Labour
I guess it's always more likely for educated people to vote labour to be fair.
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Students have been brainwashed by our disgustingly Maxist education system.

The DoE is full of muppets in cords and loafers with leather patches on the elbows of their cardigans - people who ever never worked in the private sector. They have gone through education and teacher training, and are used to the State wiping their assholes for them
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spreadbetting wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:29 pm
superfrank wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:47 am


How Britain voted at the 2017 general election
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/ar ... l-election - 64% of students voted Labour
I guess it's always more likely for educated people to vote labour to be fair.
None of my kids are voting Labour and the most educated of them has a PHD. It will probably take a Marxist government for the millenials to learn the hard way about the hard left. My lifelong labour supporting grandfather who was a miner would be turning in his grave at the current state of the once proud, honourable and respectable Labour Party under the shadow of Corbyn and Momentum.
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LeTiss wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:43 pm
Students have been brainwashed by our disgustingly Maxist education system.

The DoE is full of muppets in cords and loafers with leather patches on the elbows of their cardigans - people who ever never worked in the private sector. They have gone through education and teacher training, and are used to the State wiping their assholes for them
My missus is a teacher and don't think she'd had her arse wiped by the state yet, probably been shat on a few times. But i guess it is a doddle of a job with long holidays too, it's a wonder they have such trouble recruiting and retaining staff.
Wolf1877 wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:52 pm


None of my kids are voting Labour and the most educated of them has a PHD. It will probably take a Marxist government for the millenials to learn the hard way about the hard left. My lifelong labour supporting grandfather who was a miner would be turning in his grave at the current state of the once proud, honourable and respectable Labour Party under the shadow of Corbyn and Momentum.
I guess they're in the other 36% then, wonder what the odds of something like that occuring. I guess they're alright , Jack.
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spreadbetting wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:53 pm
LeTiss wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:43 pm
Students have been brainwashed by our disgustingly Maxist education system.

The DoE is full of muppets in cords and loafers with leather patches on the elbows of their cardigans - people who ever never worked in the private sector. They have gone through education and teacher training, and are used to the State wiping their assholes for them
My missus is a teacher and don't think she'd had her arse wiped by the state yet, probably been shat on a few times. But i guess it is a doddle of a job with long holidays too, it's a wonder they have such trouble recruiting and retaining staff.
SB - you elequently voiced what i was thinking. Likewise, my better half is a teacher, tho of course, (according to respected wisdom spouted here on the board :D) she's probably an undercover marxist lesbian and just hanging out with me until the kids have flown the nest (the kids part must have been gruesome for her) !!
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"the Nordic countries give their populations freedom from the market by using capitalism as a tool to benefit everyone" whereas in the United States "neoliberal politics puts the foxes in charge of the henhouse, and capitalists have used the wealth generated by their enterprises (as well as financial and political manipulations) to capture the state and pluck the chickens".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_model
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jimibt wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:14 pm

SB - you elequently voiced what i was thinking. Likewise, my better half is a teacher, tho of course, (according to respected wisdom spouted here on the board :D) she's probably an undercover marxist lesbian and just hanging out with me until the kids have flown the nest (the kids part must have been gruesome for her) !!
Yep, I think it's only when you live with a teacher you realise how long and hard they actually work, up all hours lesson planning , extra curricular stuff, dealing with abused kids etc. Not much use having loads of holidays when most are spent planning. But I suppose when you're sitting at a computer for a few hours a day trading, not paying tax or contributing to society it can't be easy either.
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Don't you feel its a strategic blunder by the labour party to go hard left and then during the campaign move even harder left? I'm just waiting for them to say they are going to nationalise the entire country and give fluffy bunnies to every child and set the mobs on any non-believers.

If they actually went left of centre, Brexit haters may have switched. But the more Marxist they become it's incredibly unlikely to pick up any floating vote.

It's really odd to see the way it's fragmented.
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I remember Thatcher and the swing to the right. Then we got Michael Foot and Militant Tendency (although I doubt Foot was a supporter of MT) and the middle ground disappeared. But ultimately we got Tony Blair.
So history is repeating. Swing to the right. Middle ground disappears as the left go further left. And the LibDems shoot themselves in the foot by trying to differentiate themselves and present Revoke as a sensible option.
We've had 10 years (or more) of austerity which (it seems to me) has been used by the Tories to pursue idealogical goals.
Now an election is imminent so they've been compelled to spend money.
Its the normal political pendulum.
However, I'm convinced Boris will have a majority.
What the EU will make of that? Who knows! "No deal" territory?
What are the odds on that?
8:30 BBC1 tonight two pillocks have an argument.
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greenmark wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:48 pm
8:30 BBC1 tonight two pillocks have an argument.
:lol:
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Labour isn't Marxist that's just scaremongering, they're just genuinely left for a change. But when you see what a complete mess rampant capitalism is for the majority of people in the country and the planet I'm suprised it has so many fans still.

Nationisation should be popular in this 'bring back control' world but it seems like billions going to foreign "investors" every year is no competion for the "oh, its the 70s" lazy sloganeering. Unless you can explain a concept in 3 words you might as well give up. Thatcher sold the family silver and nobody seems bothered about getting it back.
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