Gambling Review White Paper update

[Naffman]

Gambling companies rightly or wrongly have a much worser reputation in society than alcohol and tobacco companies. They’ve brought it upon themselves with their predatory practices such as bonuses and VIP events to serial losers/addicts.

The problem I have is like the article suggested, I could go buy a car or boat and affordability wouldn’t even be raised. I could buy 100 packs of cigs or 100 bottles of vodka that unlike gambling, cost the NHS and regular tax payer much more than gambling does.

[ilovepizza82]

Gambling companies rightly or wrongly have a much worser reputation in society than alcohol and tobacco companies. They’ve brought it upon themselves with their predatory practices such as bonuses and VIP events to serial losers/addicts.

The problem I have is like the article suggested, I could go buy a car or boat and affordability wouldn’t even be raised. I could buy 100 packs of cigs or 100 bottles of vodka that unlike gambling, cost the NHS and regular tax payer much more than gambling does.

I remember when I had my VIP account...Had a £100 free bet every week
Back, Lay, Back for risk free bet, lay on the exchange, get 80% profit: )
Good old days : )

[ShaunWhite]

Horse racing is bang in trouble no doubt about it. Racing appears to be slowly sleep walking into oblivion and they don't seem to want to do much about it.

They can't do much about it because it's inherently boring, a whole afternoon for about 15mins action unless the you find the minúcia interesting.

[Michael5482]

Horse racing is bang in trouble no doubt about it. Racing appears to be slowly sleep walking into oblivion and they don't seem to want to do much about it.

They can't do much about it because it's inherently boring, a whole afternoon for about 15mins action unless the you find the minúcia interesting.

I was taking more about the failure to address the white paper and the implications it'll have on racing.

I enjoy going to the races. Off to Thirsk Friday night few pints in a lovely little market town, races and a few bets on. I enjoy the social element as much as the racing. Like most things in life you either enjoy it or you don't. Probably get to about 10 meetings a year between Sedgefield, Catterick, Newcastle and Thirsk.

[ShaunWhite]

I enjoy the social element as much as the racing.

Sorry for the misinterpretation. I just find horseracing to be in the same category as conceptual art (not something you hear every day), unless you take your time understanding what's written on the card then there's not much to it. People don't want to make the effort to find out what's interesting, they want their entertainment be intrinsically interesting in the first place.

[paspuggie48]

Latest RP article

https://www.racingpost.com/news/gamblin ... Eu6c10Xno/

[JohnT]

Gambling companies rightly or wrongly have a much worser reputation in society than alcohol and tobacco companies. They’ve brought it upon themselves with their predatory practices such as bonuses and VIP events to serial losers/addicts.

The problem I have is like the article suggested, I could go buy a car or boat and affordability wouldn’t even be raised. I could buy 100 packs of cigs or 100 bottles of vodka that unlike gambling, cost the NHS and regular tax payer much more than gambling does.

Do have figures to back up that claim?

[iambic_pentameter]

Bit rushed for time but figures published by the NHS and Government say it's:

£1.27billion for gambling
£2.6 billion for smoking
£3.5 billion for alcohol

[sionascaig]

Bit rushed for time but figures published by the NHS and Government say it's:

£1.27billion for gambling
£2.6 billion for smoking
£3.5 billion for alcohol

And the revenue receipts were:

£3.3 billion for gambling
£10.2 billion for smoking
£12.4 billion for alcohol

https://www.statista.com/statistics/284 ... ous%20year.

[WisdomOfCrowds]

A few recent extracts from the Racing Post, including Mick Channon's thoughts:

https://www.racingpost.com/news/opinion ... sr5V91nAP/

https://www.racingpost.com/news/gamblin ... I37q8AVMM/

https://www.racingpost.com/news/gamblin ... 9S9E5MBbN/

[wearthefoxhat]

Recent report.

https://gamblingreform.co.uk/types-of-gamblers-report

[LeTiss]

That sounds like you'll be fine, if you're not losing money over time?
Or am I not reading the finer details?

How do they determine the betting patterns of somebody though, who spreads their bets around a number of different bookmakers, including shops?
Once again, perhaps I'm not reading the finer details.....but it sounds like someone wanting to buy an excessive amount of paracetamols and will visit numerous pharmacies to get them

[jamesedwards]

That sounds like you'll be fine, if you're not losing money over time?
Or am I not reading the finer details?

How do they determine the betting patterns of somebody though, who spreads their bets around a number of different bookmakers, including shops?
Once again, perhaps I'm not reading the finer details.....but it sounds like someone wanting to buy an excessive amount of paracetamols and will visit numerous pharmacies to get them

Single customer view expected at some point, where all bookies will be sharing your data with each other. Not sure how they got this past GDPR. Will be coming later, probably several years away.

[Derek27]

That sounds like you'll be fine, if you're not losing money over time?
Or am I not reading the finer details?

How do they determine the betting patterns of somebody though, who spreads their bets around a number of different bookmakers, including shops?
Once again, perhaps I'm not reading the finer details.....but it sounds like someone wanting to buy an excessive amount of paracetamols and will visit numerous pharmacies to get them

Single customer view expected at some point, where all bookies will be sharing your data with each other. Not sure how they got this past GDPR. Will be coming later, probably several years away.

I can see a situation where they can't force you to share data but refuse customers who don't sign up do it.

[jamesedwards]

That sounds like you'll be fine, if you're not losing money over time?
Or am I not reading the finer details?

How do they determine the betting patterns of somebody though, who spreads their bets around a number of different bookmakers, including shops?
Once again, perhaps I'm not reading the finer details.....but it sounds like someone wanting to buy an excessive amount of paracetamols and will visit numerous pharmacies to get them

Single customer view expected at some point, where all bookies will be sharing your data with each other. Not sure how they got this past GDPR. Will be coming later, probably several years away.

I can see a situation where they can't force you to share data but refuse customers who don't sign up do it.

It will just be buried away in the Ts and Cs that you already have to agree to, to use the site. Some probably have it already.

They are already running a trial using Gamstop https://www.racingpost.com/news/gamstop ... AN8n2Fjmr/

Also read this https://help.bet365.com/en/privacy-notice