How did you learn to think in probabilities?

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wearthefoxhat
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I remember when they set this up.

One rule was the stack sizes had to reset back the original amounts. This favoured the AI programme and that's how it ended up.

The bluffing aspect could be factored in on a randomiser. "If I call 50% of the time with a nut flush draw" then a 50/50 randomiser decides the decision. Same for other scenarios with a bet or overbet.

The hand charts that a poker player studies and learn so that it represents the best GTO play can be programmed in too.

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Also, exploitative settings if a player falls into a certain way of playing or not playing enough hands...etc

With the way AI can learn from patterns and trends, I reckon one exists out there in some form and is being used online. Not the ones that are attached to a piece of software, but external ones where the player can key in data for each optimal play.
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sniffer66
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Not sure why the need to key in the data. I had tables and cards mapped for my bots for almost every major poker site. A decent bot can pick up the game state very easily, couple that with an AI that builds data on the opponent as it plays, plus couple that with historical data on each player....

DeepStack was another poker AI I remember, but think that only won against pros when H2H
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sniffer66 wrote:
Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:59 pm
Not sure why the need to key in the data. I had tables and cards mapped for my bots for almost every major poker site. A decent bot can pick up the game state very easily, couple that with an AI that builds data on the opponent as it plays, plus couple that with historical data on each player....

DeepStack was another poker AI I remember, but think that only won against pros when H2H
Though having said that, the big issue I had was hiding the bot from the detection. We used to use a virus based rootkit but the sites did get around that eventually.
Nowadays I'd probably use 2 VM's, one remote controlling the other and send the mouse clicks etc via remote control soft so nothing was installed on the device connected to the site.
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decomez6
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Probability is quite easy to
Grasp if you take away the randomness ..,
I am always fascinated by this card pattern game by Peter.
I personally had never heard of it before until I watched this video .. was my introduction to bet angel. :D

https://youtu.be/RTi5ekVHIM8
stueytrader
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Maybe there's another aspect to consider about accepting probability.

Being wrong but getting lucky. That also happens.
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decomez6 wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 4:55 pm
Probability is quite easy to
Grasp if you take away the randomness ..,
Being able to think in probabilies is dependent on randomness...
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decomez6
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arbitrage16 wrote:
Tue Aug 10, 2021 2:03 pm
decomez6 wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 4:55 pm
Probability is quite easy to
Grasp if you take away the randomness ..,
Being able to think in probabilies is dependent on randomness...
Probability is a measurement tool , randomness is lack of a clear pattern
arbitrage16
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decomez6 wrote:
Tue Aug 10, 2021 2:16 pm
arbitrage16 wrote:
Tue Aug 10, 2021 2:03 pm
decomez6 wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 4:55 pm
Probability is quite easy to
Grasp if you take away the randomness ..,
Being able to think in probabilies is dependent on randomness...
Probability is a measurement tool , randomness is lack of a clear pattern
Yeah you're still confused about the difference between probability and thinking in probabilities.
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decomez6
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arbitrage16 wrote:
Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:52 am
decomez6 wrote:
Tue Aug 10, 2021 2:16 pm
arbitrage16 wrote:
Tue Aug 10, 2021 2:03 pm


Being able to think in probabilies is dependent on randomness...
Probability is a measurement tool , randomness is lack of a clear pattern
Yeah you're still confused about the difference between probability and thinking in probabilities.
Thinking in probabilities ( plural for probability)?
My take ,
- it’s a subjective experience limited by the ability of the brain to perform certain computational tasks better than others.
The brain is binary by nature , meaning ;
The neuronal pathways always starts with an ON or OFF biochemical reaction.
This gives way to a basic pattern recognition system, which becomes way complex as more variables are added to the mix ,especially when the data comes in a random nature .
The brain is NOT sufficiently well equipped to deal with randomness and that’s why we tend to forget things that don’t make sense to us ( lack of pattern)….
Thinking in probabilities allows us to use our binary system to make sense of the randomness.

I remain corrected ,



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