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firlandsfarm
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Where is all the criticism about this thread being political and non trading?!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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jimibt
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2024 9:38 am
Where is all the criticism about this thread being political and non trading?!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
chill out area :lol: :mrgreen: :roll: :) (plus comment is more about decency, responsibility and compassion than political ranting)
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2024 9:33 am
greenmark wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2024 3:19 pm
ForFolksSake wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2024 3:10 pm

Reeves would have to furlough all the Indian restaurants in the UK otherwise they would all go out of business :roll:
Might be wrong but most staff in Indian restaurants aren't Indians.
The owner of my local 'Indian' restaurant once told me most 'Indian' restaurants are actually owned and staffed by Bangladeshi's!
Correct, having visited 3 regions in India, the food you get in the UK is certainly not Indian cuisine by any stretch of the imagination.
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jimibt wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2024 9:36 am
Crazyskier wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2024 9:29 am
Blame not the son for the sins of the father.

CS
Absolutely, inaction in the face of inherited inequality is akin to complicity in the original acts. While we are not to blame for the historical wrongs of colonial Britain and slavery, standing idly by allows the shadow of those sins to persist. It is our moral imperative to not only recognize but also actively dismantle the structures of inequality that have been passed down. To do nothing is to allow the legacy of injustice to continue, and in that, we fail to honour the principle of progress and humanity. We must be agents of change, for indifference is a silent endorsement of the status quo.
Steady on old chum.

Don't forget that we were the first to abolish slavery, with Wilberforce in 1807. The rest of the world followed our lead.

You are in danger of sounding like you support that warped ideology around ''white privilege''.

CS
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Crazyskier wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2024 12:14 pm
jimibt wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2024 9:36 am
Crazyskier wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2024 9:29 am
Blame not the son for the sins of the father.

CS
Absolutely, inaction in the face of inherited inequality is akin to complicity in the original acts. While we are not to blame for the historical wrongs of colonial Britain and slavery, standing idly by allows the shadow of those sins to persist. It is our moral imperative to not only recognize but also actively dismantle the structures of inequality that have been passed down. To do nothing is to allow the legacy of injustice to continue, and in that, we fail to honour the principle of progress and humanity. We must be agents of change, for indifference is a silent endorsement of the status quo.
Steady on old chum.

Don't forget that we were the first to abolish slavery, with Wilberforce in 1807. The rest of the world followed our lead.

You are in danger of sounding like you support that warped ideology around ''white privilege''.

CS
i'd recommend that you read up on the role played by the East India company in the 1600-1800's. They themselves were ABOLISHED in the late 1800's (280 years after their creation). You can only abolish something if you were actively involved!!.

next you'll be telling us that we *civilised* india and africa!
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Archery1969 wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2024 9:08 pm
My god, where is this thread going. However, some statistics.

As per 2021 Census for Bradford:

61% White British

As per 2021 Census for Leeds:

89% White British

As per 2021 Census for London:

53% White British

So, based on the above official facts, I wouldn’t say Bradford or Leeds or even London had a non existent White British representation.

Let’s keep the thread clean people.

🤠
I don't know where you get your facts from but here are some more :cry:
The populations of Leicester, Luton and Birmingham are now greater than 50% black and minority ethnic
https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/white-briton ... irmingham/
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ForFolksSake wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2024 1:46 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2024 9:08 pm
My god, where is this thread going. However, some statistics.

As per 2021 Census for Bradford:

61% White British

As per 2021 Census for Leeds:

89% White British

As per 2021 Census for London:

53% White British

So, based on the above official facts, I wouldn’t say Bradford or Leeds or even London had a non existent White British representation.

Let’s keep the thread clean people.

🤠
I don't know where you get your facts from but here are some more :cry:
The populations of Leicester, Luton and Birmingham are now greater than 50% black and minority ethnic
https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/white-briton ... irmingham/
So what?
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ForFolksSake wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2024 1:46 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2024 9:08 pm
My god, where is this thread going. However, some statistics.

As per 2021 Census for Bradford:

61% White British

As per 2021 Census for Leeds:

89% White British

As per 2021 Census for London:

53% White British

So, based on the above official facts, I wouldn’t say Bradford or Leeds or even London had a non existent White British representation.

Let’s keep the thread clean people.

🤠
I don't know where you get your facts from but here are some more :cry:
The populations of Leicester, Luton and Birmingham are now greater than 50% black and minority ethnic
https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/white-briton ... irmingham/
WTF - Lookup up the 2021 UK census data. I didn’t make those figures up for those 3 places. Ofcourse the data could be wrong or people lied on the forms. But that would be stupid as it carries a large fine and/or prison sentence.

But I am confident the UK is not being overrun by non white people.

This thread seems to be getting rather stupid and with some comments downright racist.

From my experience, don’t worry about someone’s skin colour or where they were born, worry more about if they’re an idiot or not. I would suggest there are a few of the later on this forum.
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Archery1969 wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2024 2:10 pm
ForFolksSake wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2024 1:46 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2024 9:08 pm
My god, where is this thread going. However, some statistics.

As per 2021 Census for Bradford:

61% White British

As per 2021 Census for Leeds:

89% White British

As per 2021 Census for London:

53% White British

So, based on the above official facts, I wouldn’t say Bradford or Leeds or even London had a non existent White British representation.

Let’s keep the thread clean people.

🤠
I don't know where you get your facts from but here are some more :cry:
The populations of Leicester, Luton and Birmingham are now greater than 50% black and minority ethnic
https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/white-briton ... irmingham/
WTF - Lookup up the 2021 UK census data. I didn’t make those figures up for those 3 places. Ofcourse the data could be wrong or people lied on the forms. But that would be stupid as it carries a large fine and/or prison sentence.

But I am confident the UK is not being overrun by non white people.

This thread seems to be getting rather stupid and with some comments downright racist.

From my experience, don’t worry about someone’s skin colour or where they were born, worry more about if they’re an idiot or not. I would suggest there are a few of the later on this forum.
+1 - my views exactly!!
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I luv it when a non-trading thread starts arguing!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Tue Jul 23, 2024 3:34 pm
I luv it when a non-trading thread starts arguing!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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jimibt wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2024 1:04 pm
Crazyskier wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2024 12:14 pm
jimibt wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2024 9:36 am


Absolutely, inaction in the face of inherited inequality is akin to complicity in the original acts. While we are not to blame for the historical wrongs of colonial Britain and slavery, standing idly by allows the shadow of those sins to persist. It is our moral imperative to not only recognize but also actively dismantle the structures of inequality that have been passed down. To do nothing is to allow the legacy of injustice to continue, and in that, we fail to honour the principle of progress and humanity. We must be agents of change, for indifference is a silent endorsement of the status quo.
Steady on old chum.

Don't forget that we were the first to abolish slavery, with Wilberforce in 1807. The rest of the world followed our lead.

You are in danger of sounding like you support that warped ideology around ''white privilege''.

CS
i'd recommend that you read up on the role played by the East India company in the 1600-1800's. They themselves were ABOLISHED in the late 1800's (280 years after their creation). You can only abolish something if you were actively involved!!.

next you'll be telling us that we *civilised* india and africa!
Hi Jim,

Not quite. Though having enjoyed Kerala, Amristar and a few other Indian destinations over the years, and counting several Indian-heritage families as both clients and friends, I can tell you that many of them perceive the railways we built to have been a blessing, if nothing else.

CS
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Crazyskier wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2024 5:22 pm
...and counting several Indian-heritage families as both clients and friends,
What do they say when you tell them you don't like too many Indians over here, and would like the place predominantly white?
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Derek27 wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2024 5:33 pm
Crazyskier wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2024 5:22 pm
...and counting several Indian-heritage families as both clients and friends,
What do they say when you tell them you don't like too many Indians over here, and would like the place predominantly white?
I think CS referred to "acceptable is ''Anglo-Saxon heritage''".
So not necessarily white.
And your reference to the influence of the Romans, Vikings and Normans did fly into my mind too.
But hey, the response overall is that we disagree with his view on this issue. If CS can provide a cogent argument for his view that's fine.
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greenmark wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2024 7:54 pm
If CS can provide a cogent argument for his view that's fine.
:lol: :lol:
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