One of the test PCs is configured with 64bit Windows 7, and we haven't seen that issue. Could you upload a screenshot. It may be that Windows DPI setting needs adjusting... the default is 96dpi.jacky2 wrote:When I "Creat a new rules file for selected market",In "General" type,I have't seen "Apply"and"Close".
My Local computer is Windows7&64bit,Wherther you have the same problem?
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mister man
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Mr Angel
Thanks for replying to my previous points, which has been helpful, Thanks.
Ive got another query, when trading on football, and a goal is scored, often unscrupulous traders put up false odds.
E.G - games at 0-0 draw odds are 3.4, home team is favourite, they score, SUSPEND, its now 1-0, and obviously draw odds will lengthen, on the market reopening, before the market settles down you might find some odds at say around 3.4 or less hoping to snag a bot or novice trader. Soon odds settle to 4+.
How can i stop my automation asking for odds 2 to 3 mins after suspend.
I got caught out tonight, is it the re-arm time or is it some other input thats needed.
Thanks in advance
Thanks for replying to my previous points, which has been helpful, Thanks.
Ive got another query, when trading on football, and a goal is scored, often unscrupulous traders put up false odds.
E.G - games at 0-0 draw odds are 3.4, home team is favourite, they score, SUSPEND, its now 1-0, and obviously draw odds will lengthen, on the market reopening, before the market settles down you might find some odds at say around 3.4 or less hoping to snag a bot or novice trader. Soon odds settle to 4+.
How can i stop my automation asking for odds 2 to 3 mins after suspend.
I got caught out tonight, is it the re-arm time or is it some other input thats needed.
Thanks in advance
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mister man
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Previous post should read
Mr Angel
Thanks for replying to my previous points, which has been helpful, Thanks.
Ive got another query, when trading on football, and a goal is scored, often unscrupulous traders put up false odds.
E.G - games at 0-0 draw odds are 3.4, home team is favourite, they score, SUSPEND, its now 1-0, and obviously draw odds will lengthen, on the market reopening, before the market settles down you might find some odds at say around 3.4 or less hoping to snag a bot or novice trader. Soon odds settle to 4+.
How can i stop my automation from asking for odds UNTIL 2 to 3 mins after suspend, when market has settled.
I got caught out tonight, is it the re-arm time or is it some other input thats needed.
Thanks in advance
Mr Angel
Thanks for replying to my previous points, which has been helpful, Thanks.
Ive got another query, when trading on football, and a goal is scored, often unscrupulous traders put up false odds.
E.G - games at 0-0 draw odds are 3.4, home team is favourite, they score, SUSPEND, its now 1-0, and obviously draw odds will lengthen, on the market reopening, before the market settles down you might find some odds at say around 3.4 or less hoping to snag a bot or novice trader. Soon odds settle to 4+.
How can i stop my automation from asking for odds UNTIL 2 to 3 mins after suspend, when market has settled.
I got caught out tonight, is it the re-arm time or is it some other input thats needed.
Thanks in advance
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mister man
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ok thanks, sooner rather than later, because without it, proper in play football trading cant be risked at all imho..
any profits will be wiped out by automation accepting false odds every day.
great tool, that is suitable for pre off only at the moment.
hope to see the addition v soon.
any profits will be wiped out by automation accepting false odds every day.
great tool, that is suitable for pre off only at the moment.
hope to see the addition v soon.
Bet Angel wrote:One of the test PCs is configured with 64bit Windows 7, and we haven't seen that issue. Could you upload a screenshot. It may be that Windows DPI setting needs adjusting... the default is 96dpi.jacky2 wrote:When I "Creat a new rules file for selected market",In "General" type,I have't seen "Apply"and"Close".
My Local computer is Windows7&64bit,Wherther you have the same problem?
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mikelenard
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Regarding the time since suspended addition, will that be based on a market reset, such as after a goal or just a suspend which cod happen if a goal was scored but then ruled out for offside?
Also, is there any way to set a specific £liability for laying?
Mike
Also, is there any way to set a specific £liability for laying?
Mike
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mister man
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today im at day 4 of using the automation tool and more problems are occuring.
I must say at this point that I am an experienced bot user of over 2 years.
Football its useless for in play trading (as per my previous post) without the ability to only trade a few mins after each suspend.
Horses, after using it for 2 days, and having problems, intermitently with non greening up and double betting despite the 0 unmatched bets asked for
I changed my settings and watched it like a hawk yesterday when it did what it should all day.
So i thought prob solved, set it to go this morning, and when i checked back after an hours trading, ive lost 10% of my bank due to it not greening up !!! AGAIN !!!!!!!!!!!. same settingsas yesterday when perfect.
This might be due to races going off early im guessing, i checked my clock on the pc and its line with official time...
All in all im very disappointed.
1. I cant trade football in play that will lose money constantly due to false odds put up just after suspend ends, without the suspend changes needed.
2. I cant trust it with pre off horse racing.
3. its cost me a fortune in mis fires
4. I resubscibed on the back of this MAJOR new release.
4. to cap it all...Im being used, we all are, as one of a few unpaid advisors for ironing out the issues you guys are having with it.
that should have been done before.
Yes practice mode etc.. but still guys its not good from where im sitting... ive fallen foul despite knowing after 2 years of using bots the many pitfalls...clearly though idont know enough even now
V unhappy and skint..
Oh and yes, for those forum members who would post, its your own fault, idiot, gloating, put downs etc...
dont bother, we all know you are soooo superior already...
Major re-think needed before i go on with your tool after today..
Hope this helps others...
I must say at this point that I am an experienced bot user of over 2 years.
Football its useless for in play trading (as per my previous post) without the ability to only trade a few mins after each suspend.
Horses, after using it for 2 days, and having problems, intermitently with non greening up and double betting despite the 0 unmatched bets asked for
I changed my settings and watched it like a hawk yesterday when it did what it should all day.
So i thought prob solved, set it to go this morning, and when i checked back after an hours trading, ive lost 10% of my bank due to it not greening up !!! AGAIN !!!!!!!!!!!. same settingsas yesterday when perfect.
This might be due to races going off early im guessing, i checked my clock on the pc and its line with official time...
All in all im very disappointed.
1. I cant trade football in play that will lose money constantly due to false odds put up just after suspend ends, without the suspend changes needed.
2. I cant trust it with pre off horse racing.
3. its cost me a fortune in mis fires
4. I resubscibed on the back of this MAJOR new release.
4. to cap it all...Im being used, we all are, as one of a few unpaid advisors for ironing out the issues you guys are having with it.
that should have been done before.
Yes practice mode etc.. but still guys its not good from where im sitting... ive fallen foul despite knowing after 2 years of using bots the many pitfalls...clearly though idont know enough even now
V unhappy and skint..
Oh and yes, for those forum members who would post, its your own fault, idiot, gloating, put downs etc...
dont bother, we all know you are soooo superior already...
Major re-think needed before i go on with your tool after today..
Hope this helps others...
Why don't you, as previously suggested, put your script up on the forum for others to look at so the problem can be isolated. I've been using mine fine for ages without a problem and it was put in alpha testing for some time to iron out any problems we hadn't seen.
Yes there is the odd characteristic that may be misunderstood or applied, but the underlying code is sound. If there is a bug that hasn't been spotted then it would be nice to isolate it. Just coming on here and saying it doesn't work doesn't help anybody unfortunately.
Yes there is the odd characteristic that may be misunderstood or applied, but the underlying code is sound. If there is a bug that hasn't been spotted then it would be nice to isolate it. Just coming on here and saying it doesn't work doesn't help anybody unfortunately.
We can only trace time since the match went inplay and the time since suspended. Betfair don't flag if there has been a goal or not or other such actions, so those will be our limiting factors.mikelenard wrote:Regarding the time since suspended addition, will that be based on a market reset, such as after a goal or just a suspend which cod happen if a goal was scored but then ruled out for offside?
Also, is there any way to set a specific £liability for laying?
Mike
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mikelenard
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[/quote]We can only trace time since the match went inplay and the time since suspended. Betfair don't flag if there has been a goal or not or other such actions, so those will be our limiting factors.[/quote]
Thanks Euler, but you did not answer my question regarding liability? There are occasions whereby the odds on 30 minutes can be above or below my guestimate, however, I want my liability to remain the same at £50. In this case I can take advantage of lower odds and not overrisking when odds are higher.
Thanks,
Mike
Thanks Euler, but you did not answer my question regarding liability? There are occasions whereby the odds on 30 minutes can be above or below my guestimate, however, I want my liability to remain the same at £50. In this case I can take advantage of lower odds and not overrisking when odds are higher.
Thanks,
Mike
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mister man
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Euler wrote:Why don't you, as previously suggested, put your script up on the forum for others to look at so the problem can be isolated. I've been using mine fine for ages without a problem and it was put in alpha testing for some time to iron out any problems we hadn't seen.
Yes there is the odd characteristic that may be misunderstood or applied, but the underlying code is sound. If there is a bug that hasn't been spotted then it would be nice to isolate it. Just coming on here and saying it doesn't work doesn't help anybody unfortunately.
Euler
1. If sum1 Tells me how to i will put up my script, although im not happy imin this situ.
2. If sum1 had tested the inplay football without suspend re bet/lay delay properly they would have found this problem on day 1 !!!!
I thought it was the re-arm time, thats why i went ahead, any semi experienced in play trader on football could have seen the need for that (with all the scam merchants putting up false odds after suspension) ,so you cannot 100% most definitely not have pre tested the inplay football mode properly at all, no question about that.
3.Me, No changes in horse racing script it works one day not the next, (YES RACE MAY HAVE GONE OFF EARLY,or Pc clock out slightly, im aware of this potential pitfall and so compensated for it) so it means you have to watch the auto tool all the time...this totally makes the tool redundant, the whole point is it does what you want it too automatically, without you having to sit their doing it yourself.
4. Why should i be a guinea pig to solve your inadequacies in testing, and pay for the priveledge.
I tested my autos for a day or 2, small scale put them into action on a trial basis of 10% of my total bank and in 4 days it loses the lot. Not through losing bets but mis firing of the rules,or me not understanding them, (despite and i wont quote the names,my running all the other bots on the markets at one time or another, so i know the pitfalls)...
YES im VVV fed up
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mikelenard
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Yes, liability staking. So, if the lay odds on 30 minutes were 3.0 and I set a liability stake of £50 then £25 would be placed, or if odds were 2.85 then a stake of £27.03 would be placed, my risk would always be £50.Bet Angel wrote:So you are essential asking for liability staking in the parameters? I'm sure we could look at that.
Mike
When we test we can't test everything we can, but it's impossible to isolate everything that everybody can do or what each market can throw up, I'm sure you appreciate that. This is why we made sure it was compatible with the practice mode. That way nobody has to lose any money testing an idea or concept.mister man wrote:Not through losing bets but misfiring of the rules,or me not understanding them
If you think you have spotted something unusual then we can have a look. We are not seeing any widespread problems so are keen to examine any anomalies.
If it's easier for you, then please email support. But to upload the files here all you need to do is export them and use the file attachment option below the posting area.