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Michael5482
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Prigozhin doesn't seem the type to ride of quietly into the sunset. Whilst Putin's MO would be to murder him I'm not sure if he can in fear of a potential backlash. Maybe there's more to come from Prigozhin.

Looks like America will be providing Ukraine with cluster munitions, hopefully do the Russians some more damage.
Archery1969
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Michael5482 wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 8:42 am
Prigozhin doesn't seem the type to ride of quietly into the sunset. Whilst Putin's MO would be to murder him I'm not sure if he can in fear of a potential backlash. Maybe there's more to come from Prigozhin.

Looks like America will be providing Ukraine with cluster munitions, hopefully do the Russians some more damage.
I thought cluster munitions were banned, although, personally I dont care what they use ?
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Archery1969 wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 10:47 am
Michael5482 wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 8:42 am
Prigozhin doesn't seem the type to ride of quietly into the sunset. Whilst Putin's MO would be to murder him I'm not sure if he can in fear of a potential backlash. Maybe there's more to come from Prigozhin.

Looks like America will be providing Ukraine with cluster munitions, hopefully do the Russians some more damage.
I thought cluster munitions were banned, although, personally I dont care what they use ?
No idea but appears Russians have been using them, hopefully get a taste of their own medicine. Wonder if we have any in stock get them over there as well if we have.
Archery1969
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Michael5482 wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 12:23 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 10:47 am
Michael5482 wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 8:42 am
Prigozhin doesn't seem the type to ride of quietly into the sunset. Whilst Putin's MO would be to murder him I'm not sure if he can in fear of a potential backlash. Maybe there's more to come from Prigozhin.

Looks like America will be providing Ukraine with cluster munitions, hopefully do the Russians some more damage.
I thought cluster munitions were banned, although, personally I dont care what they use ?
No idea but appears Russians have been using them, hopefully get a taste of their own medicine. Wonder if we have any in stock get them over there as well if we have.
The 2008 Convention banning Cluster Munitions was signed by 111 countries. The UK signed. China, Russia, Israel, Ukraine and the USA did not sign.

So, the USA is free to produce, transport and handover to Ukraine as it pleases.
Archery1969
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Confirmed.

Those Russian conscripts are in for one hell of a nightmare.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66134663
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napshnap
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Helping the people by providing weapons that especially bad for the people(civs). Uranium ammunition, this, what's the next?
Philanthropists...
Archery1969
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napshnap wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:55 pm
Helping the people by providing weapons that especially bad for the people(civs). Uranium ammunition, this, what's the next?
Philanthropists...
Nukes if Putin doesn’t back down.

I painted my bunker :)
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napshnap
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Archery1969 wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:27 pm
napshnap wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:55 pm
Helping the people by providing weapons that especially bad for the people(civs). Uranium ammunition, this, what's the next?
Philanthropists...
Nukes if Putin doesn’t back down.

I painted my bunker :)
You should paint "no brains here" on it, in a case of zombie bio-apocalypse)). Or an alien invasion. Or whatever this fkn year will bring upon us all.
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greenmark
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napshnap wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:42 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:27 pm
napshnap wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:55 pm
Helping the people by providing weapons that especially bad for the people(civs). Uranium ammunition, this, what's the next?
Philanthropists...
Nukes if Putin doesn’t back down.

I painted my bunker :)
You should paint "no brains here" on it, in a case of zombie bio-apocalypse). Or an alien invasion. Or whatever this fkn year will bring upon us all.
You still don't get it. We hate Putin, we have no problem the Russians per se. Putin is a, well a word I can't use. For a so-called devoutly religious man to unleash havoc and destroy irreplacable loved ones with a waft of his hand is, frankly, despicable.
If there is a God Putin may not get the welcome he's expecting when he turns up at the pearly gates.
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Derek27
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I was sitting in the garden enjoying the sunshine, drinking beer and listening to music when my music suddenly stopped for no reason. I naturally went to my PC to find out what happened but thought to myself, poor Archery would have assumed an EMP and rushed straight to his bunker. :lol:

Edit: Figured out why my music keeps cutting. flipping computer goes to sleep!

I thought sleep occurs when you haven't used the PC for n minutes. Listening to music counts as not using the computer, Microsoft?
Archery1969
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napshnap wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:42 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:27 pm
napshnap wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:55 pm
Helping the people by providing weapons that especially bad for the people(civs). Uranium ammunition, this, what's the next?
Philanthropists...
Nukes if Putin doesn’t back down.

I painted my bunker :)
You should paint "no brains here" on it, in a case of zombie bio-apocalypse)). Or an alien invasion. Or whatever this fkn year will bring upon us all.
You may well be correct that I have no brains. But I made the decision to install a bunker. Many will say a bunker is no good from a direct hit and besides who wants to venture outside if one does manage to survive a nuclear holocaust. Well I am 30 miles from any military target and likely infrastructure although I do admit the Russians are so shit at targeting that I might very well get killed in the first couple of minutes. But assuming I am not then it gives me a chance more than most will have to deal with.

Now, do I want Putin killed slowly on camera inch by inch while he is force fed his own uncooked flesh, then yes that would do very nicely and I would like the video/dvd so I can keep watching it while eating popcorn and drinking Beer.

Am I against Russians, this is a tricky question. Any sensible law abiding citizen would say NO. But Russian soldiers murdering and raping elderly women and young children is clearly not falling orders, if they are, then they know better, can put their guns down, disobey and vanish. Don’t forget an entire 200 mile convey of Russian troops and equipment suddenly disappeared back in March 2022. They have a choice and please don’t tell me they were scared for their lives, that’s bollocks, they had a choice and still do.

So, my attitude is, Russians either remove Putin or stand next to him and be killed. I won’t lose any sleep over it and nor will I take advice from anyone else on the subject.

If at some point the US or NATO decides to blanket bomb all of Russia, then, again, I won’t lose any sleep over it or be sending money to help any survivors.

Russia and its people have a choice. Remove Putin or face the consequences down the line.

Right, back to my second paint undercoating. Chow.
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Derek27
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Archery1969 wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:27 pm
Now, do I want Putin killed slowly on camera inch by inch while he is force fed his own uncooked flesh, then yes that would do very nicely and I would like the video/dvd so I can keep watching it while eating popcorn and drinking Beer.
Disgusting, enough to make even me puke, but +1. :)
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Archery1969
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Derek27 wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:53 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:27 pm
Now, do I want Putin killed slowly on camera inch by inch while he is force fed his own uncooked flesh, then yes that would do very nicely and I would like the video/dvd so I can keep watching it while eating popcorn and drinking Beer.
Disgusting, enough to make even me puke, but +1. :)
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greenmark
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Trying to come to terms with why cluster munitons are banned. It seems to be because they have a percentage of "dud" bomblets that don't detonate but remain live.
So the areas they are dropped are like minefields requiring careful sweeping.
But my confusion is why do we make the distinction between these munitions and those that blow people and stuff to bits in one hit?
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napshnap
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greenmark wrote:
Sat Jul 08, 2023 12:14 pm
Trying to come to terms with why cluster munitons are banned. It seems to be because they have a percentage of "dud" bomblets that don't detonate but remain live.
So the areas they are dropped are like minefields requiring careful sweeping.
But my confusion is why do we make the distinction between these munitions and those that blow people and stuff to bits in one hit?
Also has to be detonated at place, cause it's not transportable.
To me it's another act of shitting on slavs soil. The sight of shredded once beautiful trees already making me depressed, but NO, let's bring all the shit to the territory. An abuse of nature. Pure insanity, hatred.

Do you still not get it? - it takes one bullet to kill man, but the people choosed to be the target. That's not a war that's a bloody muppet show.
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